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8 Apr 2024
@joehealy:matrix.orgjoehealythank you both for your input05:10:55
@blicero:matrix.orgblicero
In reply to sm
there's Budgeting overview page plaintextaccounting.orgΒ 
Thanks! I had managed to miss it.
10:03:33
9 Apr 2024
@ptabot:matrix.orgPTA forum @Zorind posted in [hledger] Envelope Budgeting from Multiple Accounts
Hello, I'm trying to figure out a good way to handle "envelope style" budgeting in the case where I might pay groceries from two different credit cards, that are paid from different real-world bank accounts. Previously, I was using "real" accounts to handle the budget, with specific budgets as sub-accounts, such as assets:bankX:checking:groceries. But that doesn't really work when my expenditur...
02:22:52
@ptabot:matrix.orgPTA forum @simonmic (Simon Michael) posted in Hledger disallowing OR'd date queries
In a recent hledger issue we discuss how queries like expr:'date:... OR ...' are problematic and will probably be disallowed.
16:27:31
@ptabot:matrix.orgPTA forum @simonmic (Simon Michael) posted in This Week In Hledger 2024-04-05
This Week In Hledger 2024-04-05 https://hledger.org/news.html#this-week-in-hledger-2024-04-05 sm Doc updates (#2189, #2191, Cookbook#investing, A tax reporting setup). Added Brian Victor's hledger-txnsbycat.hs to the Scripts page. On plaintextaccounting.org I started a project finance/donations page and public ledger; moved blog links off the front page in favour of the PTA forum; added a...
18:00:01
11 Apr 2024
@ptabot:matrix.orgPTA forum @simonmic (Simon Michael) posted in Hacker News: Double-entry bookkeeping as a directed graph
A pretty nice intro that some people will like, and a very exciting discussion of the meaning of Life, the Universe, and Debit and Credit! Be warned!
02:45:45
@ptabot:matrix.orgPTA forum @hledgerfan (Robert Nielsen) posted in Musings about hledger smart dates
How mistyping a date led me write a song, find a new reference for hledger smart dates, and come up with an idea for a future video. See this week's hledgerfan posting.
15:58:36
@simonmic:matrix.orgsmpushed some https://plaintextaccounting.org/FAQ updates19:42:08
12 Apr 2024
@ptabot:matrix.orgPTA forum @simonmic (Simon Michael) posted in This Week In Hledger 2024-04-12
This Week In Hledger 2024-04-12 https://hledger.org/news.html#this-week-in-hledger-2024-04-12 sm Investigated/refactored/discussed a problem with boolean query expressions; disallowed date: in OR expressions #2178. Required process >=1.6.19.0 for HSEC-2024-0003. Updated docs: balance assertions, balancesheetequity. plaintextaccounting.org updates: FAQ, Borrowing and lending, Investing and ...
21:33:58
15 Apr 2024
@devurandom:matrix.orgDennis (7616) joined the room.22:26:29
@simonmic:matrix.orgsmphew.. end of tax year journal entries prepared.22:50:52
@simonmic:matrix.orgsmMy taxes are not that complicated (self employed paying quarterly estimated federal & state taxes) but all the same it comes out to 15 separate transactions22:51:26
@simonmic:matrix.orgsmnew ones this time because I changed my tax bookkeeping last year22:52:18
@simonmic:matrix.orgsm1.75 hours22:52:44
@simonmic:matrix.orgsm * phew.. end of tax year & upcoming journal entries prepared.23:24:45
16 Apr 2024
@aankhen:matrix.orgAankhen
In reply to @simonmic:matrix.org
My taxes are not that complicated (self employed paying quarterly estimated federal & state taxes) but all the same it comes out to 15 separate transactions
15 transactions to pay your annual taxes? 😲
08:09:19
@simonmic:matrix.orgsm Aankhen: 2 to adjust my liability to what the tax software calculates; 2 to record refunds due; 8 for 2024's quarterly estimated payments; 2 to record receiving the refunds; 1 to record an ibond purchased with part of the refund 16:32:06
@simonmic:matrix.orgsm * Aankhen: 2 to adjust my liability to what the tax software calculates; 8 for 2024's quarterly estimated payments; 2 to record receiving the refunds; 1 to record an ibond purchased with part of the refund; 2 placeholders for next year's liability adjustment 16:33:59
@simonmic:matrix.orgsmso, some forecasted stuff16:34:30
@aankhen:matrix.orgAankhenOh, icy. I thought you meant 15 separate payments, ha. My mistake.17:19:09
@garyp:matrix.orggary
In reply to @joehealy:matrix.org
It is not yet revenue, the work has not been done and the money not yet earned

joehealy: In accrual-basis accounting the money you received from the client becomes a liability until the work has been performed.

2024-04-16 * "Cash from client"
  Liabilities:Unearned-Revenue:ClientA -100
  Assets:Bank-Account 100

2024-05-10 * "Work on project"
  Liabilities:Unearned-Revenue:ClientA 100
Income:ClientA -100

There's a good explanation at https://baremetrics.com/blog/is-deferred-revenue-a-liability.

23:23:20
17 Apr 2024
@ptabot:matrix.orgPTA forum @zako posted in Shared expenses with shared assets
I am going insane trying to select the best approach to include in my ledger shared accounts with my partner. I began to trace my personal finances with my personal assents, liabilities, expenses and income. However, now I need to track also shared accounts with my partner. I do not want to track the personal finances of my partner, only shared accounts with me. And what I think is different from ...
10:38:03
@simonmic:matrix.orgsmPTA has been quiet of late. I guess start of year is a busy time17:28:39
19 Apr 2024
@ptabot:matrix.orgPTA forum @simonmic (Simon Michael) posted in ANN: hledger 1.33 released
I'm pleased to announce hledger 1.33! This release comes a bit later than usual, with help from contributors Jonathan Dowland, Ilja Kocken, Colin Dean, Dmitry Astapov, Vekhir, ShrykeWindgrace, Martijn van der Ven, Michael Rees, aragaer, and hamzashezad. Highlights: close enhancements, hledger-ui 'dark' theme, GHC 9.8 support, Apple ARM binaries, and the usual improvements and fixes. Release...
00:55:13
21 Apr 2024
@ptabot:matrix.orgPTA forum @dharmatech posted in The Accounting Game lemonade stand in ledger-cli
Hey y'all πŸ™‹β€β™‚οΈ As a way of learning ledger-cli, I implemented the transactions from chapter 1 of 'The Accounting Game' book in ledger-cli. However, I have a question about how to record expenses. I've posted my question here: Thought I'd share here in case anyone has any suggestions. Thanks!
13:18:17
22 Apr 2024
@ptabot:matrix.orgPTA forum @dharmatech posted in Define category up front
Hey y'all πŸ™‹β€β™‚οΈ Here's some example transactions from the ledger manual: 2011/03/15 Trader Joe's Expenses:Groceries $100.00 Assets:Checking 2011/03/15 Whole Food Market Expenses:Groceries $75.00 Assets:Checking Is there a way to define Checking as an Asset once up front so that I don't have to write Assets:Checking out each time? So for example, something like this: def...
19:14:45
23 Apr 2024
@ptabot:matrix.orgPTA forum @simonmic (Simon Michael) posted in PTA on money.stackexchange.com
Some notes on money.stack.exchange for plain text accounting folks. On the recent PTA forum post referencing a question asked on the Personal Finance & Money stackexchange Q&A site, I wrote: It's often hard to get much traction for PTA questions over there, so far. By that I mean there aren't many PTA-related questions there, and if you do ask there you will feel a certain headwind, ie the...
01:21:59
@ptabot:matrix.orgPTA forum @jbrains (J. B. Rainsberger) posted in Off-topic/Thanks: Filing corporate income taxes and didn't need a bookkeeper in the middle
I didn't find an "off-topic" nor "random" tag, so apologies if this is seen as clutter. πŸ™‚ I took the plunge into PTA with hledger to draft my company's books in 2023 and to escape the torture of QuickBooks in a multiple-currency world. I am pleased to report that I have succeeded in completing my fiscal year 2023 recordkeeping and my accountants have not fired me. Moreover, I feel like I will act...
18:46:50
@ptabot:matrix.orgPTA forum @waterturkey posted in Payee Directive
How many of you utilize the payee directive and if so, what are the main benefits of it? I've only been using hledger for a few months now and have not determined if it is something I want to utilize.
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24 Apr 2024
@ptabot:matrix.orgPTA forum @simonmic (Simon Michael) posted in This Week In Hledger 2024-04-19
This Week In Hledger 2024-04-19 https://hledger.org/news.html#this-week-in-hledger-2024-04-19 sm Worked on release process, github workflows, platform build issues, mac arm release binaries, CLI commands list, a hledger add ANSI bug, misc doc updates, and released hledger 1.33. Misc You can see recent discussions at: https://matrix.hledger.org https://list.hledger.org https://forum.plaint...
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