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@tadam_0_0:matrix.orgtadam_0_0hi, when I do "apt list --upgradable", I get listed 3 packages that are upgradable....but why does the normal GUI-Updater does not update them?09:32:57
@snorristurlosson:tchncs.deSnorri Sturlusonwhen you do apt upgrade - are these 3 packages listed as: Not upgradet due to "phasing"? 09:34:42
@snorristurlosson:tchncs.deSnorri Sturluson some updates are keept back for a time on some machines, afaik just to check if there are problems on the machines where they are upgraded09:35:31
@tadam_0_0:matrix.orgtadam_0_0no, they are all upgradable09:35:36
@tadam_0_0:matrix.orgtadam_0_0oh wait09:35:46
@snorristurlosson:tchncs.deSnorri Sturlusonyes in the upgradable liste - but what is schon if you do apt upgrade?09:36:05
@snorristurlosson:tchncs.deSnorri Sturluson * 09:36:21
@tadam_0_0:matrix.orgtadam_0_0
In reply to@snorristurlosson:tchncs.de
when you do apt upgrade - are these 3 packages listed as: Not upgradet due to "phasing"?
I didn't do " apt upgrade " because I don't know if I should update them or not....since the normal GUI updater doesnt
09:36:33
@snorristurlosson:tchncs.deSnorri Sturluson * 09:36:36
@tadam_0_0:matrix.orgtadam_0_0
In reply to@snorristurlosson:tchncs.de
yes in the upgradable list - but what is schown if you do apt upgrade?
python3-distupgrade, ubuntu-release-upgrader-core and ubuntu-release-upgrader-gtk
09:37:10
@tadam_0_0:matrix.orgtadam_0_0oh my bad09:37:39
@tadam_0_0:matrix.orgtadam_0_0its, when I do "apt list --upgradable"09:37:57
@tadam_0_0:matrix.orgtadam_0_0but again are those packages maybe in beta or something? because I don't want beta packages09:38:27
@tadam_0_0:matrix.orgtadam_0_0Like I said, I would like to know first, if I should update them through the terminal or should I wait and maybe in a week or so the normal GUI updater will update them? Like I also said, I don't want beta or alpha packages....I want a stable system09:41:29
@snorristurlosson:tchncs.deSnorri Sturluson

apt policy - you can do this- to find out if a package is phased

09:41:52
@snorristurlosson:tchncs.deSnorri Sturlusonapt policy package-name09:42:02
@snorristurlosson:tchncs.deSnorri SturlusonI never use the gui upgrade, so I don't know if it says something about phased packages09:42:39
@tadam_0_0:matrix.orgtadam_0_0well its in german, so I don't know if you will be able to understand this09:44:53
@tadam_0_0:matrix.orgtadam_0_0 apt policy python3-distupgrade
python3-distupgrade:
Installiert: 1:24.04.22
Installationskandidat: 1:24.04.23
Versionstabelle:
1:24.04.23 500 (gestaffelt 0%)
500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-updates/main amd64 Packages
* 1:24.04.22 100
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
1:24.04.16 500
500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble/main amd64 Packages
09:44:58
@snorristurlosson:tchncs.deSnorri Sturlusongestaffelt 0% - seems to me it is not phased - so my idea would be irrelevant09:45:53
@snorristurlosson:tchncs.deSnorri Sturlusonbut if your on the stable repository apt never installs not stable versions09:46:29
@tadam_0_0:matrix.orgtadam_0_0what do you mean with "irrelevant? Should I just not care about it?09:46:58
@snorristurlosson:tchncs.deSnorri SturlusonI can't test it, as I don't have any upgradable packages at the moment09:47:03
@snorristurlosson:tchncs.deSnorri Sturlusongerman?09:47:23
@tadam_0_0:matrix.orgtadam_0_0I'm german, yeah09:47:48
@snorristurlosson:tchncs.deSnorri SturlusonIch meine damit, dass das paket offenbar nicht phased ist -- also wenn der GUI upgrader das nicht upgradet muss das was anderes sein09:47:54
@snorristurlosson:tchncs.deSnorri Sturlusonbut maybe someone else could say more09:48:18

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