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Secure Messaging Apps (SecuChart)

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bkil.gitlab.io/secuchart xmpp:secuchart@conference.movim.eu t.me/securemessagingapps matrix.org/legal/code-of-conduct (!modhelp to ping mods) Contributions welcome! Discussion on secure messenger apps, security and privacy. Post off-topic in #messaging-offtopic:matrix.org Prefer #p2p-messengers:matrix.org peer-to-peer (Secure Scuttlebutt, RetroShare, Jami, Tox, Briar, Cabal, Cwtch, Session, Tinfoil Chat, Freenet, I2P, Twister, GNUnet Chat, OnionShare, Berty), federated (Matrix, SIP/SIMPLE, XMPP, SimpleX, Conversations, Gajim, Pidgin, Movim, Rocket.Chat, Delta Chat, GnuPG, Status.im), planned federated (NextCloud Talk, Wire) or centralized (CryptoDog, Signal, Mumble, Mattermost, Jitsi, Zulip) instead of closed server (Threema, Keybase, Telegram) or proprietary (WhatsApp, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, FaceTime, Zoom, Google Hangouts/Meet, Viber, WeChat, Wickr, Olvid, ICQ, SOMA, Discord, Hushed, Beeper, Skype, FireChat, Kik, Line, Silent Phone, Slack, Tencent QQ, Trillian, TeamSpeak, Ventrilo, HipChat) or outmoded (IRC, Jabber, Cryptocat, Ricochet, Bitmessage, Serval Project).47 Servers

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27 Feb 2024
@green_sheep:matrix.orgGreen Sheep
In reply to @bkil:matrix.org
You can trivially self-host it for friends & family. It's much lighter than any Matrix HS or XMPP server. They just released a single-click server installer.
interesting
19:11:13
@green_sheep:matrix.orgGreen Sheepmost people aren't interested in self hosting, to be quite frank19:11:23
@green_sheep:matrix.orgGreen Sheepif there's any downtime, you immediately become the blame19:11:37
@bkil:matrix.orgbkilmhttps://delta.chat/en/2023-12-13-chatmail19:11:41
@green_sheep:matrix.orgGreen Sheepif I were self hosting, I would self host SimpleX19:11:48
@green_sheep:matrix.orgGreen SheepI do not care to. I would rather give the $5 a month spent on a VPS to them19:12:18
@bkil:matrix.orgbkilmThankfully, email clients and forums/mailing lists are offline-first by design and delivery is retried for 2 days typically.19:12:25
28 Feb 2024
@mahdi1234:matrix.orgmahdihttps://www.process-one.net/blog/ejabberd-24-02/15:15:26
@mahdi1234:matrix.orgmahdi

Matrix Federation Unleashed: Imagine seamlessly connecting with Matrix servers – it’s now possible! ejabberd breaks new ground in cross-platform communication, fostering a more interconnected messaging universe. We have still some ground to cover and for that we are waiting for your feedback.

15:15:32
29 Feb 2024
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1 Mar 2024
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2 Mar 2024
@green_sheep:matrix.orgGreen Sheep https://x.com/MishaalRahman/status/1763318098940105077 15:49:46
@green_sheep:matrix.orgGreen Sheep This sucks 15:49:48
@erack:tchncs.deerAckWhy would one use Google Messages with a custom ROM anyway..16:17:07
@erack:tchncs.deerAckInstalling Magisk and the Play Integrity Fix is said to help on rooted phones: https://www.androidpolice.com/google-blocking-rcs-google-messages-rooted-android-phones/16:17:53
@green_sheep:matrix.orgGreen Sheep
In reply to @erack:tchncs.de
Why would one use Google Messages with a custom ROM anyway..
You get the benefit of e2ee with other Google Messages users
17:04:57
@green_sheep:matrix.orgGreen Sheep
In reply to @erack:tchncs.de
Installing Magisk and the Play Integrity Fix is said to help on rooted phones:
https://www.androidpolice.com/google-blocking-rcs-google-messages-rooted-android-phones/
Yeah, I'd rather not ruin the security of my device though
17:05:10
@green_sheep:matrix.orgGreen Sheep GrapheneOS could add that to the OS safely but it'd likely get patched immediately for something as large as GrapheneOS to add it 17:05:36
@johanw:matrix.orgjohanw
In reply to @green_sheep:matrix.org
You get the benefit of e2ee with other Google Messages users
You had e2ee once. Now they feed the messages to their AI "to help you better".
18:04:12
@green_sheep:matrix.orgGreen Sheep
In reply to @johanw:matrix.org
You had e2ee once. Now they feed the messages to their AI "to help you better".
yeah that's true
18:04:31
@green_sheep:matrix.orgGreen Sheepmy cousin at Google is actually working on that18:04:35
@green_sheep:matrix.orgGreen SheepI get having an AI to respond to emails... but responding to messages is a bit much18:05:54
@hacknorris:envs.netNeookay. having a server problem. someone knows how to set up certbot for whole ip (i have only one public subsite in apache while i also don't have domain YET so now i get "Attribute Error" ) while also not having hairpin NAT?20:10:25
@hacknorris:envs.netNeonvm. did it20:42:02
@hacknorris:envs.netNeohad wrong apache xD20:42:08
@hacknorris:envs.netNeoand firewall20:42:13
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