| 17 Apr 2021 |
 ekka | i know a lot of bands/musicians went to shit like patreon/bandcamp subscriptions but i'm sure it's still a drop in the bucket | 03:51:15 |
 SynergyAddict | Maybe the modern landscape for musicians is grimmer than I realized | 03:52:01 |
| ekka | wow there's a lot going on on this cfcf record | 03:54:51 |
| ekka | random pop-punk song in the middle, had to check and make sure i hadn't accidentally hit the end or something | 03:55:28 |
| ekka | i think the biggest part of things being grim is just the fact that streaming services are so ubiquitous | 03:57:23 |
| ekka | and you're just literally making nothing at all off them if you're a smaller band | 03:57:46 |
| ekka | so yeah bands basically have to eat that because if you're not on streaming you don't exist | 03:58:09 |
| ekka | * so yeah bands basically have to eat that because if you're not on streaming you don't exist | 03:58:14 |
| ekka | and have to monetize through other means which yeah just doesn't exist during corona times | 03:59:01 |
| ekka | apparently i was wrong about the bands themselves being the ones pushing records back though | 03:59:20 |
| ekka | >Ultimate Success Today was originally slated to drop in late May, but as the coronavirus forced most businesses to close, the label made the call to postpone the release until July. “At the time I was quite pissed off.” Casey says. “But they really expressed the point that, as a band, we sell a lot of records, like actual records — we’re not much of a streaming band. So they were actually kind of optimistic where they thought if they pushed it to July that record stores could actually be opened, and people will buy the record, which I guess now seems like it will be true in some capacity.” | 03:59:37 |
| ekka | re: the protomartyr record from last year, there were a few other records i was thinking of that did this as well but i guess you can assume something similar | 04:00:36 |
| SynergyAddict | Yeah I figure it would be labels | 04:05:22 |
| SynergyAddict | Fair enough | 04:05:39 |
| SynergyAddict | Hope protomartyr still exists | 04:05:52 |
 ArtieLaing | thats strange | 04:11:45 |
| ekka | yeah i dont really get the reasoning either | 04:14:47 |
| ekka | a huge chunk of record sales are done online at this point | 04:15:05 |
| ArtieLaing | yeah | 04:15:51 |
| ArtieLaing | i get there's a resurgence in vinyl sales | 04:16:01 |
| ArtieLaing | but EVERY band is a streaming band | 04:16:12 |
 Froks | im glad you all like the cfcf record, its nice but it sorta misses the mark on a lot of things i thought it would go for | 04:32:27 |
| Froks | he sorta 3/4ths asses the late 90s early 00s electronica chic angle | 04:32:44 |
| Froks | music overall rn is so strange, its so corporate and the only way youll even get some gas money from it is if you play along and sell out hard | 04:33:42 |
| Froks | but youll get nearly no push back from selling out to a point of grossness because were cucked | 04:33:59 |
| Froks | socially | 04:34:03 |
| Froks | also the demands and trends are surreal | 04:34:53 |
| Froks | songs that dont go over 2 minutes, and are comprised of like just a hook | 04:35:18 |
| Froks | also all this at the cusp of new microgenre waves and people cashing on in it | 04:37:23 |
| Froks | * also all this at the cusp of new microgenre waves and people cashing on in it | 04:37:41 |
