| 4 Aug 2021 |
 patience | In reply to @lattice:tchncs.de
what ever happened to just private by default? without having to get into all the fancy threat model words and such privacy by design/default is partially why rooms like this exist | 18:57:52 |
| patience | privacy can be built in to the services and systems you use | 18:58:14 |
| patience | there just isn't a culture of doing that yet | 18:58:22 |
 c0w | you always have to compromise | 18:58:23 |
| c0w | don't expect to make your normal routine as usual and have a magic bullet solution that will solve all the privacy issues | 18:59:06 |
 lattice | i get it, but i dont see how qubes helps to counter it if you gotta go threw all these things | 18:59:14 |
| c0w | ..argh | 18:59:28 |
| c0w | it does help but you need to go one step at time | 18:59:39 |
| c0w | you don't know what to do with linux as a host system | 18:59:51 |
| patience | In reply to @lattice:tchncs.de
i get it, but i dont see how qubes helps to counter it if you gotta go threw all these things counter what? | 18:59:53 |
| c0w | I would start by learning it | 19:00:03 |
| c0w | you want to use qubes without making an effort to use qubes | 19:00:24 |
| c0w | you would probably won't be able to even install windows on it | 19:00:41 |
| c0w | it's not like next > next > next and clicks | 19:01:05 |
| lattice | i am willing, i am tech proficient, but i am thinking further like if my mom wanted to use it it would be way out of question | 19:01:16 |
| c0w | I disagree | 19:01:26 |
| lattice | and she honestly needs it more than me | 19:01:32 |
| c0w | at least based on what you said above | 19:01:34 |
| c0w | In reply to @lattice:tchncs.de
so im not really a noob, i just dont know how to do everyday stuff on linux 👆️ | 19:01:56 |
| lattice | lol | 19:02:07 |
| lattice | youre gonna keep bumping that ;) | 19:02:26 |
| c0w | if this is your feeling on linux one could even imagine what you will feel on qubes | 19:02:29 |
| c0w | not really | 19:02:42 |
| c0w | look do what you want | 19:02:46 |
| c0w | don't take my word for it | 19:02:53 |
| c0w | I don't seem to be able to convince you (even though I'm using qubes for almost a decade now) | 19:03:19 |
| c0w | * look, do what you want | 19:03:36 |
| lattice | no i appreciate your input. it sounds like its not something you can just install and be up and running instantly though and i just gotta be willing to learn it and stuff | 19:03:43 |
| lattice | good to know beforehand | 19:04:00 |
| c0w | start by learning what you can do with linux | 19:04:15 |
