| 3 Jun 2021 |
 @bjonnh:matrix.org | you can't hide | 19:11:57 |
 poikilotherm (CET,UTC+1) | In reply to @pdurbin:matrix.org
Oh well. I guess IRC doesn't have threads either. 😃 IIRC they are working on that. Saw some discussion on the protocol support some time ago. | 22:27:38 |
| poikilotherm (CET,UTC+1) | Oh oh pdurbin looks like Merce is leaving for real. https://twitter.com/mercecrosas/status/1400579737903325185?s=19 | 22:28:54 |
| @bjonnh:matrix.org | yes people have kept promising IRC v3 | 22:29:35 |
| @bjonnh:matrix.org | it would also provide history for when you were not online | 22:29:46 |
| @bjonnh:matrix.org | but it has been in discussions for years and nothing has been happening | 22:29:58 |
| 4 Jun 2021 |
 pdurbin | poikilotherm: yeah. She will be missed. | 14:24:59 |
| pdurbin | bjonnh: I keep hearing that IRCv3 is not dead but Matrix seems fine so far. | 14:25:55 |
| @bjonnh:matrix.org | I'll believe it when I see it implemented properly in clients | 14:40:48 |
| pdurbin | I'm not aware of any project that are on IRCv3 and proud of it. 😀 | 14:41:59 |
| pdurbin | * I'm not aware of any projects that are on IRCv3 and proud of it. 😀 | 14:42:06 |
| pdurbin | Here's a question. Once we're fully on Matrix, what should https://chat.dataverse.org look like? Right now it shows a preview of messages and provides a way to log in and start chatting. How would we do something similar with Matrix? | 15:31:31 |
| @bjonnh:matrix.org | we could bridge matrix and irc | 17:06:42 |
| @bjonnh:matrix.org | and not have to worry about that | 17:06:42 |
| @bjonnh:matrix.org | everything would be shared between both | 17:06:42 |
| pdurbin | I've heard of such bridging but the problem I'm trying to solve is what to do with chat.dataverse.org. I guess you're saying we could keep it the same. But I think I'm ok with saying goodbye to IRC for Dataverse. At the very least, I could just have a static page explaining the situation. Better would be an iframe (or whatever) of recent Matrix messages and an explanation of how to join the conversation. | 17:46:03 |
| @bjonnh:matrix.org | if we bridge it we have both anyway and that's free | 18:11:37 |
| @bjonnh:matrix.org | so we can have matrix for users that don't know what IRC is | 18:11:49 |
| @bjonnh:matrix.org | and IRC for the old crooks that don't want new things :D | 18:12:01 |
| pdurbin | bjonnh: which IRC network would we bridge to? That new one you mentioned? | 18:48:23 |
| pdurbin | Anyway, I just announced in IRC that we've moved to Matrix, kicked the logging bot out, left the channel, and updated chat.dataverse.org to say that we're on Matrix. I'm currently turning the IRC logs into a static site so those URLs don't go dead. | 18:50:30 |
| pdurbin | That chat site is still running on the VM that I need to power off so I'll either more it to a static site (probably GitHub Pages) or use the new VM that was set up for me. | 18:51:31 |
| pdurbin | * That chat site is still running on the VM that I need to power off so I'll either move it to a static site (probably GitHub Pages) or use the new VM that was set up for me. | 18:51:40 |
| @bjonnh:matrix.org | yes libera eventually | 18:59:19 |
| @bjonnh:matrix.org | but lets see | 18:59:25 |
| @bjonnh:matrix.org | maybe nobody want IRC | 18:59:31 |
| @bjonnh:matrix.org | the bridge is on matrix servers anyway no need to host anything ourselves | 19:00:16 |
| pdurbin | My guess is that nobody wants IRC. But yes, let's see. 😀 | 19:36:56 |
| pdurbin | Ok, I set up two GitHub Pages sites. One is for the old IRC logs at http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu . The other is for https://chat.dataverse.org which is just an HTML file. Pull requests welcome for the latter at https://github.com/IQSS/chat.dataverse.org | 21:17:03 |
| pdurbin | Have a good weekend! | 21:17:24 |
