In reply to @prma:tchncs.de
Hey all. I'm having some trouble understanding the role of co-op cloud here. What is it?

In reply to @prma:tchncs.de
Hey all. I'm having some trouble understanding the role of co-op cloud here. What is it?

In reply to @cambriale:matrix.org
We created a bonfire abra recipe, which is also the suggested way of deploying bonfire ( https://recipes.coopcloud.tech/bonfire ) and together we are figuring out how to spin up a network of hosting cooperatives to offer premium hosting services and other potential solidarity activities (more about the initiative here http://bonfirenetworks.org/hosting/ )

In reply to @mayel:matrix.org
Software deployment platform probably is right, which includes both tools (like abra) and a catalog of ready-to-use recipes which makes deploying and configuring new open source apps a breeze. Though IIRC the intention is also that there'd be a federation of co-op hosting providers all using the same platform.

In reply to @kurmet:matrix.org
hi! I tried to compile bonfire-website but failed also i tried to compile bonfire-app and failed with bunch of errors how to install bonfire into my environment? i have all latest elixir erlang postgresql, i am an experienced Elixir dev, my OS is Ubuntu

In reply to @flancian:matrix.org
Hi all! Is anyone running bonfire for a community with federation on or off? Social.coop is considering it

In reply to @hxgdzyuyi:matrix.org

Hello,

Bonfire seems like an application similar to Mastodon or WordPress that can be installed by a site administrator. However, it appears that installing it requires learning a lot of prerequisites, and even using Docker feels quite complex. Compared to services built with Golang, are there any ways to make the installation process easier?

Golang developer here. Not affiliated with the bonfire team.
Go is a special case. Where you have a team of very sophisticated language designers, spend all their time developing a language that is extremely easy to deploy. I know of no other language that has that level of ease in deployment. The tradeoff is that it is not playing really well with the rest of the ecosystem. And in the case of comparing it with Elixir/Erlang ecosystem that bonfire is written with, you do not have any resiliency or observability, relatively of course. Also if you are going to have a database other than sqlite for it, it would become much more complicated to deploy. Add a message broker, gRPC and caching, and you have yourself a mess that Elixir could handle without any external dependencies.

Now you mentioned Wordpress. Wordpress is written in PHP which also is not easy to deploy. In that case, you have endless man hours spent on making scripts that make that deploy easier. Also the hosting providers spend a lot of time and money on custom scripts and panels that make it a one click solution. But if you were to deploy it by hand without custom scripts, it would be as hard as any other project.

That is not to say that bonfire will never reach that ease. They are definitely aiming for that with their Justfile. But honestly deploying anything on different OSes with different environments, is the hardest part of the whole thing. This project is admireable because they are making a lot of effort into making it easier, but I could not say the same about mastodon for example, which is mostly a mess because of all the external dependencies that they had to take in because of the performance of Ruby.