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15 May 2022
@vikulin:matrix.orgvikulin
In reply to @5htpabuser:nekopolis.org
that's not what i meant, i meant quic datagrams
* I think quic datagramm can be used for a hole punching as well
18:41:41
@xlmnxp:matrix.orgSalem Yaslem
In reply to @5htpabuser:nekopolis.org
but anyway theres also uTP (μTP) that could be used & its also UDP so reserving udp:// for QUIC is just not cool
use quic://
19:16:44
@majestrate:matrix.orgmajestrateif we are doing our own special snowflake stuff via quic we could just use ygg://21:55:36
@5htpabuser:nekopolis.orgsleep proygg5://23:30:09
@5htpabuser:nekopolis.orgsleep prodid someone propose private ygg virtual networks with different than 200::/7 prefix before23:38:37
@5htpabuser:nekopolis.orgsleep proas in configurable prefix for purpose of being able to run 2 ygg daemons side by side23:39:28
@majestrate:matrix.orgmajestrateit was some fd range if i recall, then i threw out the idea of using 200::/7 as it is a deprecated range for frame relay23:50:04
@majestrate:matrix.orgmajestratei was going to use that one in lokinet23:50:26
@5htpabuser:nekopolis.orgsleep prolol23:50:35
@majestrate:matrix.orgmajestratethe 200::/7 one, but then i moved to a less nutty addressing mechanism23:50:48
@majestrate:matrix.orgmajestrateimplementing a dht just to do that is a no go23:51:19
@5htpabuser:nekopolis.orgsleep probut i mean for private yggnets where u would also want to serve public yggnet23:51:25
@5htpabuser:nekopolis.orgsleep proalso yeah DNS is mostly fine except when it isn't23:51:56
16 May 2022
@ufm:twinkle.lolufm 🇺🇦It is not planned to make the "weight of the peer" in 0.5? Very lacking.01:22:20
@neilalexander:neilalexander.devneilalexander
In reply to @ufm:twinkle.lol
It is not planned to make the "weight of the peer" in 0.5? Very lacking.
This is actually a much harder problem to solve than it initially appears without making it potentially possible to introduce routing loops or other gamification
08:12:23
@neilalexander:neilalexander.devneilalexanderWe've talked a lot about it but not sure what the best approach is yet08:12:53
@neilalexander:neilalexander.devneilalexander(although with the potential watermarking in v0.5ish, routing loops may be less of an issue somewhat)08:13:07
@ufm:twinkle.lolufm 🇺🇦 neilalexander: BGP solution not applicable (as-path prepending)? 09:03:16
@jboi:jboi.nlJonathan
In reply to @5htpabuser:nekopolis.org
did someone propose private ygg virtual networks with different than 200::/7 prefix before
thats the 300::/8 range, right?
09:24:41
@5htpabuser:nekopolis.orgsleep pro200::/7 includes 300::/8 but its not for private yggnets09:26:08
@neilalexander:neilalexander.devneilalexander
In reply to @ufm:twinkle.lol
neilalexander: BGP solution not applicable (as-path prepending)?
Yggdrasil doesn’t work that way
09:28:35
@5htpabuser:nekopolis.orgsleep prowas thinking more in lines of "i wanna do 8000::/7 for own private infra project communication but wanna serve public 200::/7 on some nodes too"09:28:43
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@yarnbuild:matrix.orgyarnbuildhttps://netfuture.ch/2022/05/web3-is-just-expensive-p2p/14:56:16
@vikulin:matrix.orgvikulinhttps://github.com/yggdrasil-network/crispa-android/releases/tag/v2.1.215:52:13
@tomz:matrix.orgTom
In reply to @yarnbuild:matrix.org
https://netfuture.ch/2022/05/web3-is-just-expensive-p2p/
kinda off topic here, but to briefly put my opinion on web3 (as someone that has been professionally involved in crypto since 2015), web3 is a buzzword with no meaning. Its completely centralized and expensive. Its not even p2p.
Steer clear.
16:02:52
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@vikulin:matrix.orgvikulinIs there any abstract type which can be assigned as result of net.ResolveUDPAddr nad net.ResolveTCPAddr for a single var?20:28:47
@vikulin:matrix.orgvikulin * Is there any abstract type which can be assigned as result of net.ResolveUDPAddr and net.ResolveTCPAddr for a single var?20:28:55
@vikulin:matrix.orgvikulin
In reply to @vikulin:matrix.org
Is there any abstract type which can be assigned as result of net.ResolveUDPAddr and net.ResolveTCPAddr for a single var?
found https://pkg.go.dev/net#ResolveIPAddr
20:47:26

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