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30 Jun 2020
@the0:privacytools.iothe0At work we were tempted to try contract Matrix.org to build it for us17:04:06
@the0:privacytools.iothe0or rather new vector, I think that's the business org behind it17:04:52
@the0:privacytools.iothe0Idk if they'd even take sponsorship/funding in exchange for feature requests being bumped up, it seems like they're super focused on the peer to peer stuff, which isn't the blocker for us deploying at work atm17:05:32
@neilalexander:matrix.orgneilalexander Much of the work for E2EE is just in key management, it's not really that complicated, but it's just been fairly low on our list of priorities because of the P2P stuff 17:06:44
@jan.christian:gruenhage.xyzjcgruenhageI guess that depends on the amount of $$ you'd want to drop on that :P17:06:44
@the0:privacytools.iothe0That would definitely be something we could discuss :P17:07:01
@jan.christian:gruenhage.xyzjcgruenhage
In reply to @neilalexander:matrix.org
It's probably not going to be quite so simple - our plan is to now build E2EE key management into a new component
well in that case, the old PR is mostly useless then...
17:07:04
@the0:privacytools.iothe0 neilalexander: the p2p stuff is cool, don't get me wrong, but we need a non python performant server for our deployment at work atm :P, can I pm you? 17:07:46
@neilalexander:matrix.orgneilalexanderSure17:08:09
@the0:privacytools.iothe0I'm actually trying to get in touch w/ someone at french .gov to understand how they're dealing with it at scale17:08:52
@the0:privacytools.iothe0I would have assumed they'd have hit perf bottlenecks by now17:08:58
@tulir:maunium.nettulir
In reply to @the0:privacytools.io
I'm actually trying to get in touch w/ someone at french .gov to understand how they're dealing with it at scale
a part of it is probably that they have an internal federation (per-ministry servers or something iirc)
17:11:50
@the0:privacytools.iothe0Yeah but even then, it seems like for > 200 or so users actively using it, synapse seems to fall apart17:12:20
@the0:privacytools.iothe0I assume which is part of the reason for dendrite :P17:12:26
@jan.christian:gruenhage.xyzjcgruenhage
In reply to @the0:privacytools.io
Yeah but even then, it seems like for > 200 or so users actively using it, synapse seems to fall apart
that very much depends on your definition of "actively using"
17:15:18
@jan.christian:gruenhage.xyzjcgruenhageThe main problem are big rooms with lots of state changes, which I think the french gov will have less of than matrix.org for example17:15:50
@the0:privacytools.iothe0Or when you're talking to a server with lots of them :p17:17:35
@jan.christian:gruenhage.xyzjcgruenhagethat shouldn't be a problem, as long as you don't take part in those rooms17:18:53
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@the0:privacytools.iothe0If my users do though :P18:33:59
@jan.christian:gruenhage.xyzjcgruenhageYeah, but that's not "talking to servers who participate", that's participating in those rooms directly18:38:02
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