| 10 Apr 2020 |
| 08:34:04 |  yorick | okaydoke |
| 09:14:20 |  informer | In reply to @go_commit_electric_scooter_ankle:matrix.org
im pretty sure kde is just considering forking it, but it looks like they'll ry to negotiate first not sure if the KDE devs will be able to maintain Qt on their own in case of a fork. they said themselves they do not have the manpower for it at the moment. |
| 09:16:00 | informer | KNOME was an aprils fool joke, but if they are unable to maintain Qt and are forced to move to Gtk+ then it might actually become a reality. |
| 09:37:33 |  teslacoil40kv | What a mesh..... |
| 09:53:09 |  ArtifTh | oh no |
| 09:38:00 | teslacoil40kv | Do people need Qt? In reality? |
| 09:53:18 | ArtifTh | not a KDE rewrite again |
| 09:39:31 |  MasterOfTheTiger | What should be used instead of Qt then? |
| 09:53:58 | ArtifTh | I will just sell my soul to microsoft completely if this will happen |
| 09:54:24 | teslacoil40kv | Qt may be is free but is not open... so we come after 30 years the Linux and software and hardware opensource go around the globe with success included on satellites or orbit and on cubesats of course , for example UPsat was a good example of open source cubesat on hardware and software... so we must go this logic... if we havent a good tool to make it alternative is a big issue... so many uses of open source project's do not know how much work there is behind this teams , that work on their free time or a small present of them full time... so they need more support... I download freecad and I donate 10 euros ... because I like what they do. |
| 09:57:06 |  Lurkki | i don't think maintaining a fork is that infeasible |
| 09:55:06 | teslacoil40kv | But is not enough.... |
| 09:57:32 | Lurkki | i read somewhere that 50% of commits come from the community already |
| 09:57:56 | teslacoil40kv | Dont sell anything... we make so much this 30 years... just keep the old KDE we will see they need support not only money but time also... Microsoft give 500k per year to linux foundation... I will not be surprised if Microsoft make windows 20 linus 100% and pay for office and cloud services |
| 09:58:25 | Lurkki | some companies like KDAB would also probably jump ship |
| 10:00:29 | teslacoil40kv | Yes but CERN ban all windows update when Microsoft double the prices then Microsoft give it for free |
| 10:00:46 | teslacoil40kv | Or something like this... is very fanny6some times |
| 10:00:51 | teslacoil40kv | The world |
| 10:20:12 | yorick | Can any binary tree be represented in RPN without parenthesis? |
| 10:27:38 | ArtifTh | any fixed n-ary tree can be represented without parenthesis |
| 10:36:10 | ArtifTh | In reply to @teslacoil40kv:matrix.org
Do people need Qt? In reality? yes |
| 10:41:23 | teslacoil40kv | Οκ fair but more then 6 years we have this issue is not new... we know what must be made.... and similar issues from the beginning of the Linux and open source.... after the copyrights of medical stuff and open source solutions. So yes qt , okay we need something that work before we replace it fair ... but we can not go to Mars or support the planet and humanity with all copyrights and bullshit... right?? |
| 10:57:13 | yorick | In reply to @artifth:ru-matrix.org
any fixed n-ary tree can be represented without parenthesis wdym fixed |
| 10:58:18 | yorick | also I do not think we should be dependent on Qt |
| 10:59:23 | yorick | I think Qt is bad |
| 11:12:52 | ArtifTh | In reply to @yorick:feneas.org
wdym fixed I mean that evety node has N child elements |
| 11:13:58 | yorick | ah |
| 11:15:27 | yorick | but if that is not the case, you cannot make that guarantee? |
| 11:22:41 | ArtifTh | Levy few weeks ago suggested a format for serializing a tree with arbitrary number of nodes' children |
| 11:27:32 | yorick | I know you can get binary representations of lambda calculus and combinatory logic(both can be represented as binary trees) but I can't figure how I can turn something like (SII(SII)) (from combinatory logic) into an expression that is not ambiguous and not parenthised. |
