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Acenia Government

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6 Jan 2020
22:00:54@dodoid_official:matrix.orgNOT MY MAIN ACCOUNT - SEE @dodoid:dodoid.com The second amendment of the US, as I see it, is exactly what the parody of a libertarian would hope for. As I see it, the second amendment in the US does protect the right to own a nuclear weapon, whether or not it is man-portable. However, I don't believe it should.
22:01:38@dodoid_official:matrix.orgNOT MY MAIN ACCOUNT - SEE @dodoid:dodoid.comI've thought a lot about what weapons it's sensible for civillians to own and use, and I think, to look at that, we have to look at what the purpose of such weapons are.
22:04:38@dodoid_official:matrix.orgNOT MY MAIN ACCOUNT - SEE @dodoid:dodoid.com

The purposes, as I see it, of ownership of weapons by the general public, are:

  • As general tools, for secondary, non-violent uses
  • As weapons for defense of person and of property against attack by other members of the general public, potentially armed, and potentially bearing illegal weapons.
  • For recreational purposes, including hunting
  • As offensive weapons, for overthrow of a tyrannical government
22:05:37@dodoid_official:matrix.orgNOT MY MAIN ACCOUNT - SEE @dodoid:dodoid.com *

The purposes, as I see it, of ownership of weapons by the general public, are:

  • As general tools, for secondary, non-violent uses
  • As weapons for defense of person and of property against attack by other members of the general public, potentially armed, and potentially bearing illegal weapons.
  • For recreational purposes, including hunting
  • As offensive weapons, for overthrow of a tyrannical government
22:05:58@dodoid_official:matrix.orgNOT MY MAIN ACCOUNT - SEE @dodoid:dodoid.comThe first does not place any particular requirements on the weapons used, as its uses are secondary.
22:06:47@dodoid_official:matrix.orgNOT MY MAIN ACCOUNT - SEE @dodoid:dodoid.comThe second requires rapidly-deployed, always-ready weapons powerful against an individual or small group of people, and workable at close-to-medium range.
22:07:29@dodoid_official:matrix.orgNOT MY MAIN ACCOUNT - SEE @dodoid:dodoid.comThe third has is a broad category, but generally, it requires inexpensive, varied weapons.
22:07:38@dodoid_official:matrix.orgNOT MY MAIN ACCOUNT - SEE @dodoid:dodoid.comThe fourth is where it gets complicated.
22:07:51@dodoid_official:matrix.orgNOT MY MAIN ACCOUNT - SEE @dodoid:dodoid.comWhat would overthrowing a tyrannical government in Acenia look like?
22:10:01@dodoid_official:matrix.orgNOT MY MAIN ACCOUNT - SEE @dodoid:dodoid.comIt's going to be an urban environment. The government likely has weapons powerful against large targets, and can probably also afford better directed weapons. The citizens are likely operating alone or in small groups without a clear command structure, but may also at times be a larger mob (in which case they're probably getting bombed the second they become the faintest bit violent).
22:11:48@dodoid_official:matrix.orgNOT MY MAIN ACCOUNT - SEE @dodoid:dodoid.comTargets, for such a civillian overthrow, would likely be people, vehicles, buildings, infrastructure, etc.
22:13:24@dodoid_official:matrix.orgNOT MY MAIN ACCOUNT - SEE @dodoid:dodoid.comSo, generally, it requires portable, powerful, rapidly-deployed, potentially easily-concealed weapons. However, it may sometimes require weapons to be used against targets larger or better-armored than individuals.
22:13:33@dodoid_official:matrix.orgNOT MY MAIN ACCOUNT - SEE @dodoid:dodoid.com * So, generally, it requires portable, powerful, rapidly-deployed, potentially easily-concealed weapons. However, it may sometimes require weapons to be used against targets larger than individuals.
22:13:46@dodoid_official:matrix.orgNOT MY MAIN ACCOUNT - SEE @dodoid:dodoid.com * So, generally, it requires portable, powerful, rapidly-deployed, potentially easily-concealed weapons. However, it may sometimes require weapons to be used against targets larger or better-armored than individuals.
22:14:36@dodoid_official:matrix.orgNOT MY MAIN ACCOUNT - SEE @dodoid:dodoid.comI think what emerges here is a general need for precision, portability, and directionality
15 Jan 2020
04:04:30@dodoid_official:matrix.orgNOT MY MAIN ACCOUNT - SEE @dodoid:dodoid.com invited @dodoid:dodoid.comDodoid.
04:04:43@dodoid_official:matrix.orgNOT MY MAIN ACCOUNT - SEE @dodoid:dodoid.comchanged room power levels.
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16:44:34@xylobol:matrix.orgmaybe outdated depends on how things go changed their display name from Xylobol to maybe outdated depends on how things go.
17:05:06@xylobol:matrix.orgmaybe outdated depends on how things go invited @me:danielvinci.comXylobol.
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17:15:18@me:danielvinci.comXylobolhttps://matrix.to/#/+acenia:danielvinci.com
17:15:23@me:danielvinci.comXyloboljust to keep things more organized
17:15:54@xylobol:matrix.orgmaybe outdated depends on how things gochanged room power levels.
17:15:38@me:danielvinci.comXylobolit would also be appreciated if someone could create an alias on matrix.org and their own homeservers
17:19:17@me:danielvinci.comXylobol@room
17 Jan 2020
19:16:07@Wintier:matrix.orgwintier invited @wintier:thickthighs.lifeaubrey.
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19 Jan 2020
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