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14 Apr 2021
@dokidoe:matrix.kiwifarms.netdokidoeEh. Maybe, I am glad fsf didn't completely fold even if they made concessionary statements05:48:21
@dokidoe:matrix.kiwifarms.netdokidoeAnonymously complaining doesn't do much, limited amount of value I give at the end of the day05:49:47
@zeroability:matrix.orgzeroability
In reply to @dokidoe:matrix.kiwifarms.net
It's a rhythm. I loved Linus, RMS, and Linux people so seeing it hit here hurts a lot
I know the feeling. There are so many projects I was going to use or possibly contribute to. They are far too toxic now for that to be a possibility.
05:53:09
@zeroability:matrix.orgzeroabilityI couldn't even get more involved with the LUG in my area because the same types of people make up the entirety of it.05:54:13
@dokidoe:matrix.kiwifarms.netdokidoe I think this goes back to iodine point, that these things are popular 05:55:38
@dokidoe:matrix.kiwifarms.netdokidoeIt's not just x, it's a lot of xs05:55:59
@zeroability:matrix.orgzeroabilityWell, we have proven on this issue there are more of us. 05:57:25
@rany:fairydust.spacerany
In reply to @jackredstonia:halogen.city
btw who are you chatting to on which platform
chatting on private chats, they're not on any group chats
06:01:38
@rany:fairydust.spaceranyalso on matrix 06:01:42
@dokidoe:matrix.kiwifarms.netdokidoe
In reply to @zeroability:matrix.org
Well, we have proven on this issue there are more of us.
I hope. But we have seen core people of the open source community(not just corporate powers) use their powers to push this and virtue signal.
06:02:23
@zeroability:matrix.orgzeroabilityThere were some that also wanted to back out but the maintainer locked the repo.06:04:30
@zeroability:matrix.orgzeroabilityUnfortunately, some of these long standing projects will fail. New projects will take their place. 06:06:39
@dokidoe:matrix.kiwifarms.netdokidoeThe end result of this is usually a fractured base06:08:10
@dokidoe:matrix.kiwifarms.netdokidoeMore often I see the woke people keep control of the institutions, and people try to form something. But fail and fight, the fundamental idea that brought people together weakens.06:11:28
@dokidoe:matrix.kiwifarms.netdokidoeSo it's nice that fsf didn't let that happen, I have more hope for them06:12:01
@zeroability:matrix.orgzeroabilityI don't think the apology was needed. It may have been performative, but any money they were getting from the people or orgs they apologized to is already gone.06:12:49
@zeroability:matrix.orgzeroabilityThe larger entities that threw RMS under the bus and made a business around GNU and Linux will probably go under. Debian and GNOME will as soon as they start losing people that have obviously been propping up the projects.06:14:23
@dokidoe:matrix.kiwifarms.netdokidoeIt was a failed opportunity to state the core values of the foundation and that it doesn't bend the knee to mob rule06:14:26
@zeroability:matrix.orgzeroability * The larger entities that threw RMs under the bus and made a business around GNU and Linux will probably go under. Debian and GNOME will as soon as they start losing people that have obviously been propping up the projects.06:14:34
@zeroability:matrix.orgzeroability * The larger entities that threw RMS under the bus and made a business around GNU and Linux will probably go under. Debian and GNOME will as soon as they start losing people that have obviously been propping up the projects.06:14:48
@dokidoe:matrix.kiwifarms.netdokidoeInstead they didn't want to be viewed as unclean06:14:55
@dokidoe:matrix.kiwifarms.netdokidoeIf those institution fail, I fear who takes over their dead husk. Corporation are eyeing the open source community more than ever06:17:00
@zeroability:matrix.orgzeroabilityMaybe there will be better options. If this keeps up security updates will be few and far between, overall quality will suffer, and there may be situations where these corps try making distros do things that Windows is doing. I wouldn't put it past any of them.06:20:55
@dokidoe:matrix.kiwifarms.netdokidoeLinux+ soon:tm:06:25:31
@samhsmith:matrix.orgsamhsmith
In reply to @iodine:halogen.city
I honestly think that reduction of concepts and ideas, and the expectation that the complexities of the systems and situations that exist in the world be boiled down to some core for easy consumption, do some of the worst harm to social, political, and scientific dialogue.
Yes and no. We do need to move to a future where all individuals in society are able to do acurate sensmaking. That means that information and debate must be common place. However you are correct that sound bites and oversimplifications are damaging since they give the illusion of good sensemaking.
07:10:24
@samhsmith:matrix.orgsamhsmith
In reply to @zeroability:matrix.org
I would like to see cryptcurrency really take off.
Invest in monero
07:17:22
@dokidoe:matrix.kiwifarms.netdokidoeI would like the idea of a uncensorable crypto image board take off. Soon:tm:07:21:45
@erkp:matrix.orgErik PräntareHeard of bitchan? https://lainchan.org/%CE%BB/res/22203.html Idk the details of it but it builds upon bitmessage07:33:00
@dokidoe:matrix.kiwifarms.netdokidoehttps://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-google.en.html07:36:52
@dokidoe:matrix.kiwifarms.netdokidoeI forget what crunk was using, but yah. The tech exists, it's more about adoption. 07:38:37

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