https://outlierventures.io/research/the-crypto-trias-politica/

@julian those papers look interesting! I think automation is likely to have a huge impact on lawyers (also doctors) in the relatively near future and that will have a pretty significant impact on how we view human labor and expertise.

@lkngtn Cheers, yours too - nice read 😃 the ‘implied’ open source dev production model is coming in for some serious attack/stress-testing (ymmv) in crypto atm - can only be a good thing imo. I think we need to make some peace (& understanding) with the whole automation/ml/ai shebang (& quick:). I wonder if it often comes down to each of our own visions of the future - I’m a glass half full kinda guy, bring it on!

the ‘implied’ open source dev production model is coming in for some serious attack/stress-testing (ymmv) in crypto atm

curious what you mean by this?

@lkngtn That I think when crypto devs have been asked about, or presented, an ontological position - the go to (& somewhat unthinking) position is a no-liability open source responsibility model. And that that (quasi) legal position (particularly via Welch or indeed the cleanapp crew) is under some examination. It’s like this years’ version of "all devs should sign an oath/ study morality. Make sense?:upside_down:

hmm I’m very much in the camp of “no-liability open source resposibility”

Obviously I think devs should think about what they are building, but I think its dangerous to pin liability on an open source dev writing open source code with and offered under an open source license with specificially expresses that there is no implied warranty associated with the software product.

I think your right that we might see that tested… https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/02/secs-action-against-decentralized-exchange-raises-constitutional-questions

Obviously I think devs should think about what they are building, but I think its dangerous to pin liability on an open source dev writing open source code offered under an open source license with specificially expresses that there is no implied warranty associated with the software product.

Obviously I think devs should think about what they are building, but I think its dangerous to pin liability on an open source dev writing open source code offered under an open source license which specificially expresses that there is no implied warranty associated with the software product.

@lkngtn Absolutely. But this is where the whole ‘fiduciary’ thing is going, it’s finger-pointing really isn’t it. Nonetheless, if some of what we seek is to bridge an emergent crypto-law (& actually, in agreement with your take, my experience is most devs are rigorously ethical, comes with the territory) and some expression of global legislation that might stand-up in a court (from Aragon to Supreme) - then this is to be welcomed IMO. If a little apprehensively 😃.

Further re above (popcorn at the ready) https://medium.com/cryptolawreview/crypto-lawyers-gone-wild-ca26ecbb557d – who knew this could all be so entertaining…

Very lively on twitter atm, I think we’re getting closer to the crux - how do-we/can-we separate large blockchain/dlt projects with wider aims (apologies; woolly phrase) from those intended as purely ‘financial instruments’. And yes, I’d agree w. Walch’s sentiment, OSS hasn’t been here before. https://twitter.com/angela_walch/status/1098844800852393986

Platform Coop Report from UK thinktank NESTA https://www.nesta.org.uk/report/platform-co-operatives/ - some interesting proposals applicable to Aragon Coop. I’m going to write a little more on the forum. It struck me, @light , do we (should we?) have a cooperative channel, or is the general vibe such discussion best served here??

Platform Coop Report from UK thinktank NESTA https://www.nesta.org.uk/report/platform-co-operatives/ - some interesting proposals applicable to Aragon Coop. I’m going to write a little more on the forum. It struck me, @light , do we (should we?) have a cooperative channel, or is such discussion best served here??

@luis I was listening to you talk with Tor on ‘Decentralize This’ and you mentioned Dunbars number and how you would like to integrate that into DAO’s oneday. Have you expanded on that idea? I always thought it was an interesting concept for scaling communities.

Not really, but I’d love to run a small commune powered by Aragon and UBI @kyle.dewhurst

@julian I’d keep it in this channel while chat volume is relatively low

@luis Yeea that would be great. I’m sure some hippy commune will be AragonOS powered soon enough 😁. I was thinking about how UBI probably doesn’t scale efficiently past Dunbars number. Seems like having a close knit community and accountability are essential for certain social policies like that.

Hi, I have been reading a lot lately, does AragonOS does also have code of ethics?

IMO am only aware of the Manifesto (https://wiki.aragon.org/documentation/manifesto/), though would consider Aragon’s codebase, infrastructure and interactions/relations between participants - as best representation of a practical approach to ethics. What you been reading @daffy?

@Daffy I would add to @julian’s reply that the Aragon project has a formal code of conduct as well, which is similar but perhaps different than a code of ethics. https://wiki.aragon.org/documentation/Code_of_Conduct/

Really enjoyed @yalda’s ethCC talk.

Hi, we’ve recently completed the MVP for www.windprotocol.com with an embedded token (called WIND) that we created on Aragon. The WIND platform connects startups looking for funding with investors, utilising an independent community of researchers to complete due diligence. Have a few questions:

1. Which reference projects using Argaon most effectively to govern their community of token holders?

2. We’re not doing an ICO but an Algorithmic token distribution - which means tokens will be released onto the market directly through exchanges, in accordance with growth in our daily trading volume. As a result, we have a chunky Reserve allocated for this algorithmic distribution over a 5 year period. Do you think Aragon Agents are a good application of this? As we would like to build community trust that the tokens in the reserve won’t be dumped onto the market by the company.

3. Who is the best person to speak with here regarding potential co-marketing opportunities?

Cheers!

thank you :)

Hey all, building on @exiledsurfer 's recommended Bridle article. Turns out that’s the opening essay in a new INC publication ‘State Machines: Reflections and Actions at the Edge of Digital Citizenship, Finance, and Art’. Highly recommended (I’m about a third of the way through atm. It’s also available for free in various formats - http://networkcultures.org/blog/publication/state-machines-reflections-and-actions-at-the-edge-of-digital-citizenship-finance-and-art/

yeah, that State Machines publication is pretty awesome, definately worth a read!