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2 Jul 2020
@commandline.be:matrix.orgio_r_usoh, they do, after they have appropriated it to their agenda12:41:19
@commandline.be:matrix.orgio_r_usknow i live and work in Europe12:41:36
@commandline.be:matrix.orgio_r_uscybersecurity is politics and business, not security12:42:23
@justbeaware:matrix.orgjustbeawarethe problem with management, how I see it is that they don't believe you when you've said we need to fix this and that, because they assume that what they already have is enough to prevent a breach and if you improve their security and tighten their exposure they don't have a proof that they dodged the bullet 12:42:49
@justbeaware:matrix.orgjustbeawareI'm in Germany but haven't seen that 12:43:54
@commandline.be:matrix.orgio_r_usi have asked around, typically people consider me "nice", passionate, a bit volatile but also fair and helpful.12:46:15
@commandline.be:matrix.orgio_r_usManagement wants factory produced employees, i am 100% self educated12:46:45
@commandline.be:matrix.orgio_r_usthis i have come to realise, is my handicap in communicating12:47:00
@justbeaware:matrix.orgjustbeawareso far I could say the same from our chat here 12:47:14
@commandline.be:matrix.orgio_r_usi can also go on rants12:47:28
@commandline.be:matrix.orgio_r_us:D12:47:31
@justbeaware:matrix.orgjustbeawarewell aren't most techies like that 12:47:50
@justbeaware:matrix.orgjustbeawareafter all I think this is why we are so fascinated about computers12:48:06
@justbeaware:matrix.orgjustbeaware * after all I think this is why we are so fascinated about computers12:48:13
@kingpin_reborn:tchncs.dekingpin_rebornbecome contractors12:50:27
@justbeaware:matrix.orgjustbeawarewell I need to get my hands dirty until I go that route but it is the plan 12:51:20
@commandline.be:matrix.orgio_r_us kingpin_reborn: eventually i did, 4 years, gave up because of not asking the right price, went back to jobland for 8 years, tried again, found i can ask x2 x3 of what i asked before, now it looks more interesting 12:57:36
@justbeaware:matrix.orgjustbeawarenow comes the question ... are you hiring :)13:14:23
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@kingpin_reborn:tchncs.dekingpin_reborn
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well I need to get my hands dirty until I go that route but it is the plan
lie more
13:31:35
@justbeaware:matrix.orgjustbeaware I don't wanna lie because I know I don't have the experience and tbh I don't feel competent enough to do a job like that, sure after 2 3 years in the industry I'll feel more confident and do that 13:34:04
@justbeaware:matrix.orgjustbeaware
In reply to @kingpin_reborn:tchncs.de
lie more
* I don't wanna lie because I know I don't have the experience and tbh I don't feel competent enough to do a job like that, sure after 2 3 years in the industry I'll feel more confident and do that
13:34:18
@commandline.be:matrix.orgio_r_us justbeaware: just a guy on my own 13:50:45
@commandline.be:matrix.orgio_r_usi feel so doubtful about the sensibility of cybersecurity as it most often practiced13:51:19
@commandline.be:matrix.orgio_r_usi hope to build an alernate approach13:51:31
@cyborgninjaneer:matrix.orgcyborgninjaneerio_r_us: have you ever talked to Daniel Micay? The GrapheneOS guy?14:06:04
@cyborgninjaneer:matrix.orgcyborgninjaneer He's more down to earth than any of the security or privacy related stuff I've read elsewhere. 14:06:35
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