| 14 Jun 2023 |
 daviwil | Guile works on macOS, it's conceivable that Guix could be ported to it, though I doubt any Guix hackers would want to do it :) | 13:42:47 |
 benoitj | they can configure macos in similar ways to a "system" config | 13:42:50 |
| benoitj | goes back to the trisquel thing, yes it could work, no it wont be ported | 13:43:13 |
| benoitj | macos is closed | 13:43:21 |
| benoitj | nix has two main artifact: regular nixos and darwin | 13:44:27 |
| benoitj | and it also has all the tools I need for work, recent node, java tools | 13:44:51 |
 Fade |
o/ | 13:46:14 |
| Fade |
is trisquel still a thing? all I know about it is that it is what RMS used when he got bitchy because Debian isn't free enough. | 13:55:31 |
|  ashraz left the room. | 13:55:56 |
| benoitj | I dont know, but guix feels like trisquel | 14:24:03 |
| benoitj | from the ideology | 14:24:22 |
| Fade |
because it has no graphics drivers? | 14:24:30 |
| benoitj | strong ideology that only foss is allowed. even mentioning non-free is not allowed | 14:25:13 |
| benoitj | it does make sense as they adhere to the fsf ideas | 14:25:51 |
| Fade |
ah. yes, well, I really want to love guix, but I've never actually succeeded at using it. | 14:26:06 |
| benoitj | I want to love guix. I love the technical part of it. | 14:26:42 |
| Fade |
ultimately it's more important that I can use the tool in front of me than to hold some line in the sand. | 14:26:44 |
| benoitj | i'm more BSD than GNU | 14:27:03 |
| Fade |
but, technically, guix is a very interesting system. | 14:27:07 |
| Fade |
I'm 100% pro-GNU | 14:27:16 |
| benoitj | yeah, totally, that is what keeps me coming back to it | 14:27:20 |
| daviwil | Scheme is what keeps me there | 14:28:36 |
| Fade |
when I was at Rakuten/Kobo, I investigated using Guix as a server deployment platform. | 14:28:51 |
| daviwil | But Guix is complex and kinda requires a programmer mindset when using it | 14:28:52 |
| benoitj | scheme is what keeps convincing me to go back :D | 14:29:02 |
| benoitj | that is not the impediment for me | 14:29:15 |
| benoitj | I would prefer guix ideology to be like debian | 14:29:42 |
| benoitj | that would allow for a supported non-free kernel | 14:30:03 |
| Fade |
but we were doing bare metal bring-up, and we had a bunch of very expensive very niche fibre channel controllers attached to some actually enormous disk racks, and those controllers were driven by a very nasty piece of binary blob. | 14:30:07 |
 (λ () nil) | I think most distros could learn from Debian's overall organization | 14:30:29 |
