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End-to-end crypto in Matrix

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Discussion around implementing and using encryption in Matrix via Olm/Megolm | Spec work and reference impl work in #e2e-dev:matrix.org143 Servers

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14 Apr 2021
@deepbluev7:neko.devNico
In reply to @grin:grin.hu
that's an over-generalisation. many people in fact sit there and acknowledge non-utd messages
That is true, I still don't want e2ee judged on a basis of that room just to be safe :D
15:39:33
@grin:grin.hugrinprobably highly depend on the clients, both mine and the other parties ;)15:39:41
@deepbluev7:neko.devNico
In reply to @aidaho:matrix.org
Ah, ok. So do I need to request keys from somewhere, or I'll just magically see new messages?
You'll be able to read new messages
15:39:46
@deepbluev7:neko.devNicoJust send a message in that room and ask others to reply15:39:56
@grin:grin.hugrin that's just fair. testing rooms are often to test whether it's broken and often it is ;) 15:40:05
@grin:grin.hugrin
In reply to @deepbluev7:neko.dev
That is true, I still don't want e2ee judged on a basis of that room just to be safe :D
* that's just fair. testing rooms are often to test whether it's broken and often it is ;)
15:40:13
@deepbluev7:neko.devNico
In reply to @grin:grin.hu
that's just fair. testing rooms are often to test whether it's broken and often it is ;)
Yeah, that is what I meant with my statement :3
15:40:25
@aidaho:matrix.orgaidaho
In reply to @deepbluev7:neko.dev
You'll be able to read new messages
gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up.
15:41:34
@hubert:uhoreg.cauhoreg Does any client other than Element start a verification by starting with an m.key.verification.start event, rather than sending an m.key.verification.request first? I'm thinking of writing an MSC to deprecate that behaviour. (cc: Nico , Sorunome , poljar ) 16:01:29
@deepbluev7:neko.devNicoNo16:01:44
@deepbluev7:neko.devNicoI explicitly do not do that and I would love it, if no client ever did!16:02:07
@sorunome:sorunome.deSorunome
In reply to @hubert:uhoreg.ca
Does any client other than Element start a verification by starting with an m.key.verification.start event, rather than sending an m.key.verification.request first? I'm thinking of writing an MSC to deprecate that behaviour. (cc: Nico , Sorunome , poljar )
fluffychat only starts with .request.
16:49:56
@sorunome:sorunome.deSorunomesoru thinks element-web only does that with .start if using the right sidebar and that's it.16:50:19
@sorunome:sorunome.deSorunomedeprecating that behaviour sounds like a good idea to soru16:50:31
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@hubert:uhoreg.cauhoregMSC created: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/312218:36:26
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16 Apr 2021
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@carl:kde.orgCarl Schwan
In reply to @crynetomega:matrix.org
Yo, I'm trying to create a more active group for cryptocurrency, maybe you would like to join, Hope to See you there 😄 #CryptoManiac:matrix.org
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17:53:55
@crynetomega:matrix.orgBullhouse Selber 17:54:28
@lub:imninja.netlub
In reply to @crynetomega:matrix.org
Yo, I'm trying to create a more active group for cryptocurrency, maybe you would like to join, Hope to See you there 😄 #CryptoManiac:matrix.org

that is maybe more suitable in #newrooms:half-shot.uk :)

this room is about e2ee within matrix itself, not a general crypto.* chat

17:59:09
@crynetomega:matrix.orgBullhouseAh okay thinks✌️18:00:58
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17 Apr 2021
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