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2 Dec 2023 | ||
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what. I assume it's not the case in china. | 17:02:00 | |
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what. I assume it's not the case in china. (maybe on a small scale) | 17:04:04 | |
3 Dec 2023 | ||
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Nix packages is still on 0.5.2: https://search.nixos.org/packages?channel=unstable&from=0&size=50&sort=relevance&type=packages&query=yggdrasil | 09:52:18 | |
is it a Very Big Deal if we run nodes on that version still waiting for 0.5.4 to get built for Nix (usually takes about a week to 10 days by my estimation). | 09:52:54 | |
* Nix packages is still on 0.5.2: https://search.nixos.org/packages?channel=unstable&show=yggdrasil&from=0&size=50&sort=relevance&type=packages&query=yggdrasil | 09:54:45 | |
* is it a Very Big Deal if we run nodes on that version still waiting for 0.5.4 to get built for Nix? (usually takes about a week to 10 days by my estimation). | 09:55:31 | |
In reply to @vegabook:matrix.orgIt's not a huge deal, they are protocol-compatible, but there are some nasty crashes fixed in 0.5.3 and 0.5.4 | 10:16:07 | |
In reply to @snowflake:mozilla.orgThere are cases where people have successfully used Yggdrasil to get around country-level filtering but it's a nice side-effect more than anything and not somewhere we will be spending time/effort | 10:18:36 | |
In reply to @vegabook:matrix.org* It's not a huge deal, they are protocol-compatible, but there are some nasty crashes fixed in 0.5.3 and 0.5.4, so I'd be recommending to anyone to run the latest if possible | 10:20:13 | |
In reply to @snowflake:mozilla.orgthey can use Greentunnel instead of Yggdrasil | 10:29:10 | |
Is there any way to set name/hostname of devices when using yggdrasil like in netbird? | 12:02:04 | |
I don't know netbird, but you can set a "name": "meow: in nodeinfo: {} | 13:00:45 | |
In reply to @xlmnxp:matrix.orgnever heard of it. | 13:02:57 | |
In reply to @arun_:matrix.orgyour own authorative nameserver? | 14:16:34 | |
In reply to @planetoryd:matrix.orgthat is what it has come to in many other places so i would not be shocked if china has that too. all of it outside the scope of routing protocols. | 14:19:10 | |
In reply to @majestrate:matrix.orgI believe geph does not bribe chinese ISPs. It seems to get bridges through CDNs though. It's possible that the market does the bribery for you. Other censor-evasion providers have servers in china acting as the first hop but geph doesn't. | 14:50:49 | |
and in chinese culture, we have the unspoken rule / idiom of "deceiving the higher-ups and subordinates". | 14:54:03 | |
* and in chinese culture, we have the unspoken rule / idiom of "deceiving the higher-ups and subordinates". (not an approval but as a fact, nothing more | 14:56:57 | |
In reply to @majestrate:matrix.org* I believe geph does not bribe chinese ISPs. It seems to get bridges through CDNs though. It's possible that the market does the bribery for you. Other censor-evasion providers have servers in china acting as the first hop but geph doesn't. So my overall impression is that geph actually continues the arms race. | 14:59:33 | |
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In reply to @planetoryd:matrix.orgeither way, it's outside the scope of routing protocols, it's an implementation detail of the node to node protocol which is akin to congestion control. | 16:28:14 | |
as someone who fought that war, just know whoever has more funding wins. it has almost nothing to do with the technology. it's the cloudflare approach of just be bigger and you win. | 16:30:18 | |
it's rather boring in that way | 16:30:37 | |
⬛ neilalexander closed issue yggdrasil-network/yggdrasil-go#1113: "Panic if the key length in debug_ requests exceeds the maximum." | 17:55:38 | |
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5 Dec 2023 | ||
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