| 15 Jan 2021 |
 Paul | Like rooms are portable as they exist on every homeserver that has participating users in that room | 10:01:35 |
| Paul | I hope more server will be packaged, I am doing initial work on Conduit already | 10:01:58 |
| Paul | Wrt running on unstable, I never had every new Synapse release break on me but... don't know what the others that really do the work here advise 😉 | 10:03:09 |
 etbe | By migrating I mean installing Conduit to replace Matrix and have the same accounts. | 10:08:51 |
| etbe | For running on Unstable it's not just the daemon but all the libraries it depends on. | 10:09:28 |
| etbe | Thanks for working on Coduit, we need a variety of servers available. | 10:12:57 |
| Paul | Synapse always goes from unstable to testing and then stable-backports, and that has been kept up pretty steadily.. so it should work (1.25.0 is underway as we speak) | 10:14:43 |
| Paul | I got your migration question. The comment of portable accounts would just mean you just don't have to migrate, you just move your account.
But plain migration, so to say, as in the ability of the newer servers to load the data from Synapse, I don't know. Conduit doesn't have it yet, that I do know, cannot speak to the others. | 10:15:58 |
 emorrp1 | etbe (Russell Coker): yes, migrating to postgres will help as will disabling presence https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/wiki/Running-synapse-on-Single-board-computers | 10:22:07 |
| etbe | Thanks, I'll give it a go. | 10:23:06 |
| Paul | Ho, interesting! Thanks emmorp1 | 10:28:24 |
| emorrp1 | Supposedly 1.25 improved the state resolution performance too, but I haven't had a chance to check that. | 10:33:59 |
 andrewsh | etbe (Russell Coker): keep in mind I’m being asked to not let Synapse into the released Bullseye | 10:56:08 |
| andrewsh | so I will probably end up filing an RC bug late in the freeze | 10:56:39 |
 davo | Homeserver performance is largely not dictated by the number of users on the server, but the rooms the server is in. | 11:05:05 |
| davo | So for example, just one person joining Matrix HQ with a Synapse instance backed by SQLite is an extremely bad idea. | 11:06:23 |
| etbe | Why not have Synapse in Bullseye? | 11:50:03 |
 jonas | my guess would be that it is not stable - but that's just a guess: andrewsh, is that request tracked in a bugreport? | 11:56:45 |
| etbe | For Synapse do they patch security issues or just make you get the new version? | 12:09:39 |
| emorrp1 | New version, there is no LTS. But, the security advisories identify the specific commits | 12:11:55 |
| andrewsh | etbe (Russell Coker): the upstream doesn’t yet want to commit to supporting old versions and our Debian FTP and Security overlords don’t want to ship unsupportable software | 12:22:20 |
| andrewsh | so while I attempted to do just that for buster, that apparently made some people unhappy and was considered a bad move | 12:22:55 |
| jonas | andrewsh: I strongly recommend that you gather info like that in a bugreport - making unfounding accusations in places like this is bad | 12:27:34 |
| jonas | (I call it accusations when you choose labels like "overlords") | 12:28:24 |
| andrewsh | accusations? | 12:28:26 |
| andrewsh | wait, maybe I used a wrong word | 12:28:45 |
| andrewsh | I didn’t mean any bad connotations | 12:28:56 |
| andrewsh | * etbe (Russell Coker): the upstream doesn’t yet want to commit to supporting old versions and our Debian FTP and Security friends don’t want to ship unsupportable software | 12:29:07 |
| andrewsh | * etbe (Russell Coker): the upstream doesn’t yet want to commit to supporting old versions and our Debian FTP and Security friends don’t want to ship unsupportable software | 12:29:18 |
| jonas | regardless of choice of words - do you agree that gathering infor in bugreports is better? | 12:29:26 |
