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6 Mar 2020
@midov:midov.plmidov
In reply to @vurpo:hacklab.fi
Maybe, but nobody wants to install and run a separate program and configure their client just for e2ee to work
i do
10:18:41
@vurpo:hacklab.fivurpoThat would be a good way to ensure nobody ever uses e2e10:18:59
@midov:midov.plmidovit really works much better than with riot for example10:19:04
@midov:midov.plmidov
In reply to @vurpo:hacklab.fi
That would be a good way to ensure nobody ever uses e2e
those people will stick to graphical bloated electron based abominations anyway
10:19:51
@sorunome:sorunome.deSorunome
In reply to @midov:midov.pl
Sorunome: pantalaimon works great for e2e with gomuks
with headless pan there is no way to get panctl to work, and that kinda sucks
10:21:03
@midov:midov.plmidov
In reply to @sorunome:sorunome.de
with headless pan there is no way to get panctl to work, and that kinda sucks
yeah thats the only issue i have with it too
10:21:30
@vurpo:hacklab.fivurpoAnyway, the Unix philosophy has been broken ever since the data going between programs became anything other than just unstructured text, or started being interactive in any way10:25:03
@vurpo:hacklab.fivurpoThat's the point when that philosophy went down the drain10:25:15
@midov:midov.plmidovi dont really care about the whole philosophy, but it still does make sense to me to have specialised programs for each task and have them work together10:28:16
@github:maunium.netGitHub [tulir/gomuks] tulir opened issue #114: Make unsent messages stick to bottom

Currently they stay in the position where they were sent, which isn't very accurate in terms of message order

 enhancement 
10:46:00
@vurpo:hacklab.fivurpo
In reply to@midov:midov.pl
i dont really care about the whole philosophy, but it still does make sense to me to have specialised programs for each task and have them work together
That would still be the case even if they're shipped together as a whole
10:57:14
@vurpo:hacklab.fivurpoThey wouldn't merge into one big software project anyway10:57:42
@midov:midov.plmidovwell as long as you can easily replace it with some other e2e project that comes out after pantalaimon and does it even better, i guess it would be fine11:00:31
@github:maunium.netGitHub [tulir/gomuks] donpdonp opened issue #115: Connectivity status and reconnect

feature request: Add a connectivity indicator, preferably as an option in a configurable status bar string, that shows either last ping or pingtime to the homeserver. Also be more aware of disconnects (putting the laptop to sleep in my case) and reconnects (join a wifi network) to more aggressively refresh with the server.

gomuks is fantastic! i found it only last week and its my primary matrix client now.

16:10:23
@donp:donp.orgdonpdonpwow thats the whole ticket. o^O16:11:01
@e-werd:phuks.coE-werdI think it's concise enough17:37:32
@e-werd:phuks.coE-werdRiot doesn't even have that. well, sort of, if you lose connectivity long enough you'll see a warning17:38:06
@donp:donp.orgdonpdonpi find riot-web to be quite good at reconnecting. i think it gets some help from the browser17:43:28
@donp:donp.orgdonpdonp is there special meaning to < > 17:49:53
@donp:donp.orgdonpdonpgomuks will either not print the content in the middle, or give an error if the line leads with lessthan, or various other confusing results17:50:17
@donp:donp.orgdonpdonpnot sure if its a matrix thing in general or gomuks17:50:29
@tulir:maunium.nettulirhmm probably because it allows html input17:50:49
@tulir:maunium.nettulirthat should probably be an option17:50:54
@donp:donp.orgdonpdonp ohhh rly.
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17:51:11
@donp:donp.orgdonpdonpwell i'll be darned.17:51:18
@vurpo:hacklab.fivurpo
In reply to@donp:donp.org
i find riot-web to be quite good at reconnecting. i think it gets some help from the browser
Pretty sure it's because Matrix clients don't have any persistent connections in the first place, so if the connection fails then the only thing you need to do to make it reconnect is continue operating like normal (maybe wait a little bit to avoid trying a thousand requests a second, but otherwise it's fine)
18:39:50
@donp:donp.orgdonpdonpthats how gomuks works now, yeah. riot-web i am guessing gets a ping from firefox because firefox knows when wifi reconnects. gomuks could also be open to hints for example a dbus msg from NetworkManager that wifi is up/down18:40:53
@tulir:maunium.nettulirpretty sure riot web just detects when the requests fail18:47:11
@travis:t2l.ioTravisRYea, riot-web is just dumb and waits for your /sync to timeout19:06:59
8 Mar 2020
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