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6 Nov 2019
00:24:47@darkdrgn2k:tomesh.netDarkDrgn2k

Aww that's disappointing. I know ipns is a headache though

Devs keep pointing at IPV6 that will fix the "nat" issue as a solution but dont think that will happen since instead of nat they have a firewall ... with the same problems

00:27:31@vaultec81:localmesh.orgvaultec81If you attempt to use a system that isn't meant for what youre using it for, you will obviously have some issues.
00:28:15@vaultec81:localmesh.orgvaultec81Its not hard to program a better system using pubsub or even something different completely.
00:29:55@vaultec81:localmesh.orgvaultec81There is some talk about DHT improvements which is supposedly going to be released in version 0.5
00:32:12@vaultec81:localmesh.orgvaultec81Depending on the circumstances, NAT can be issue. There is work being done at essentially punching through a NAT firewall. (Which works in many cases)
00:33:10@Famicoman:phillymesh.netFamicoman That's a good pad DarkDrgn2k
00:33:45@vaultec81:localmesh.orgvaultec81DHT search issues will be present regardless of how it is whether IPFS is using it or not. Its simply what happens when a DHT network gets to sizes of hunderds of thousands of nodes.
00:36:12@vaultec81:localmesh.orgvaultec81(not entirely sure on DHT scaliability)
00:35:38@darkdrgn2k:tomesh.netDarkDrgn2k
In reply to @vaultec81:localmesh.org
DHT search issues will be present regardless of how it is whether IPFS is using it or not. Its simply what happens when a DHT network gets to sizes of hunderds of thousands of nodes.
True but. Isint that ipfs too
00:36:24@darkdrgn2k:tomesh.netDarkDrgn2k
In reply to @vaultec81:localmesh.org
Its not hard to program a better system using pubsub or even something different completely.
Ipns works over pubsbub already
00:37:02@darkdrgn2k:tomesh.netDarkDrgn2k
In reply to @Famicoman:phillymesh.net
That's a good pad DarkDrgn2k
Thank you
00:38:05@vaultec81:localmesh.orgvaultec81pubsub is reliant on DHT I think for the peers to be able to find others on the same "channel"
00:37:22@darkdrgn2k:tomesh.netDarkDrgn2kI think the sustainability of a mesh must be centered around education
00:39:12@vaultec81:localmesh.orgvaultec81I honestly dont know the exact reason for IPNS over pubsub being slow. But DHT could be a potential factor. I would imagine the code present in IPFS could reveal that, or atleast shed some light on the issue.
00:42:31@vaultec81:localmesh.orgvaultec81Also keep in mind IPNS over pubsub is an experimental feature. And is neccessary to enable it on all nodes attempting to publish or resolve a name.
00:43:30@vaultec81:localmesh.orgvaultec81 * Also keep in mind IPNS over pubsub is an experimental feature. And is neccessary to enable it on all nodes attempting to publish or resolve a name.
00:46:38@vaultec81:localmesh.orgvaultec81I don't think relying on an experimental feature is a good option if you are planning to use this in a production style environment. But expect bugs in doing so.
00:47:41@vaultec81:localmesh.orgvaultec81The DHT issue will hopefully be solved out in time, best to report and shine light on the issue.
00:48:40@vaultec81:localmesh.orgvaultec81 * The DHT issue will hopefully be solved out in time, best to report and shine light on the issue.
00:51:48@darkdrgn2k:tomesh.netDarkDrgn2kI though ipfs is an experimental feature lmao
00:50:07@vaultec81:localmesh.orgvaultec81Protocol labs has managed to set a standard that no other organization has reached before. DHT issues are just one of many in a progressing software.
00:50:33@vaultec81:localmesh.orgvaultec81Like wise CJDNS has a DHT routing black hole issue.
00:54:21@vaultec81:localmesh.orgvaultec81Might be so.
01:26:37@darkdrgn2k:tomesh.netDarkDrgn2kprotocola labs is backed with $$$
01:27:14@darkdrgn2k:tomesh.netDarkDrgn2k😛
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