| 9 Jul 2018 |
 @bridge:decred.org | [slack/dhill] would you hire a financial advisor who was in debt up to his or her eyeballs? | 18:14:51 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/jy-p] i hate freedom because it's creating a humanitarian crisis, so the only solution is to obliterate freedom with carpet bombing | 18:15:17 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/jy-p] there's natural resources involved somewhere in there too | 18:15:45 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/Richard-Red] as far as I'm aware, Decred is unique as a project with a project subsidy or founders block reward that is (or can be) saved up | 18:19:26 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/Richard-Red] the ZEC founders reward always struck me as kind of odd, they're fairly blatant about saying "this money is for us to do what we want with", no pretense that it is only for development of the project or owned by the community , and as @lukebp says it's paid out at 20%/block for 4 years then nothing, which doesn't bode well for the project long-term | 18:25:41 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/jz] So Eric Meltzer (fund manager) made a rough proposal to divert some of that 20% to a community controlled fund... Here's what happened. | 18:27:17 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/jz] Zooko was fine with it being discussed but the thread got censored from the forums. | 18:27:45 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/jz] From Telegram:
>Daira Hopwood
>I feel I need to speak frankly: we cannot let perceptions of likely social media fallout prevent us from scrupulously following ethical principles in moderation. There were people whose rights were being debated as though it was a matter for others to decide whether they would be respected or not. As a queer trans person, I know very well where that kind of "debate" leads. It's not acceptable and it will not be accepted on ZcashCo fora while I'm a moderator. In this case it was property/contractual rights, but the principle is the same as if it were any other right. I don't care whether the current distribution of FR is popular or not; we had that debate before and for some time after launch, and if people don't like the current distribution then they can use a different coin.
[...]
>Eric Meltzer
>I’m out when people start comparing a request for comments to rape. Bye! | 18:29:39 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/jy-p] #triggered | 18:30:28 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/jz] That escalated quickly. | 18:30:46 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/jy-p] there's a simple and straightforward answer that doesn't require the spectre of victimhood | 18:31:27 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/jy-p] "these are our funds, this is the deal, we are not diverting them for any reason, end of story" | 18:31:44 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/jz] Correct, and if there's demand for a fork that takes away that deal someone can go do that. They can call it Zclassic and, oh wait... | 18:33:04 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/Richard-Red] interesting to note that most of the ZEC forks have changed the "founders reward", either diminish and/or make it community owned | 18:33:28 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/Richard-Red] snap jz | 18:33:46 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/jz] In all seriousness the Zcash people know they need to do something about their governance and the fact that the project will no longer have funding in 2 years. | 18:35:07 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/jz] I don't know if Zooko is crypto's Cincinnatus but we'll find out shortly. | 18:36:28 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/Richard-Red] they seem well placed to start saving that shit up, but maybe the ZEC/USD rate isn't high enough, or their burn rate is too high, for that right now | 18:36:41 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/jy-p] SORRY KID, IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV89zxrtM-Q | 18:37:08 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/Richard-Red] that's the Ethereum Foundation's play afaict, fat savings wallets | 18:37:11 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/solar] Lmao it's apparently a fine line between discussing executive salary and concentration camps | 19:21:34 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/jy-p] are you trying to say we have a problem with concentrating? | 19:45:48 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/jy-p] :troll: | 19:45:54 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/solar] Well, maybe more work would get done if dev participation wasn't voluntary :thinking_face: | 19:51:39 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/Haon] Putting our devs under pressure won't improve quality of the code I'm afraid | 20:07:57 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/Haon] "Live and let live" | 20:08:35 |
 jrick | everything in decred is voluntary, dev work is no exception | 20:08:37 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/jz] Damn, so we can't vote to make everyone drop everything and work on our pet projects?.. | 20:09:23 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/Haon] Guys, I have it | 20:11:20 |
| @bridge:decred.org | [slack/Haon] We should start selling loans in DCR | 20:11:34 |
