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16 Jun 2024
@telegram_67554345:calyx.devjeff lemon (Telegram)
In reply to @lucas:yatrix.org
this
i dont understand what xmpp has to do with genshin impact's anticheat driver?
07:38:20
@telegram_67554345:calyx.devjeff lemon (Telegram)* i dont understand, what xmpp has to do with genshin impact's anticheat driver?07:38:31
@lucas:yatrix.orgluke ∞no aparently whatsapp used xmpp as a base or some thing07:40:00
@lucas:yatrix.orgluke ∞i doubt its the csse now a days tho07:40:20
@telegram_67554345:calyx.devjeff lemon (Telegram)
In reply to @lucas:yatrix.org
no aparently whatsapp used xmpp as a base or some thing
yeah im aware, they used xmpp for whatsapp and facebook chat
07:40:32
@telegram_67554345:calyx.devjeff lemon (Telegram)idk if they are using omimo or not07:42:04
@telegram_67554345:calyx.devjeff lemon (Telegram)* idk if they are using omemo or not07:42:14
@ssi8e:envs.netbqfls2
In reply to @telegram_67554345:calyx.dev
idk if they are using omemo or not
whatsapp uses signal protocol
08:03:41
@ssi8e:envs.netbqfls2https://signal.org/blog/whatsapp-complete/08:03:45
@telegram_67554345:calyx.devjeff lemon (Telegram)
In reply to @ssi8e:envs.net
whatsapp uses signal protocol
signal uses double ratched, and so does omemo
08:04:17
@telegram_67554345:calyx.devjeff lemon (Telegram)* signal uses Double Ratchet Algorithm, and so does omemo08:04:43
@telegram_67554345:calyx.devjeff lemon (Telegram)its probably close but not quite the same thing then08:05:06
@ssi8e:envs.netbqfls2
In reply to @lucas:yatrix.org
sent an image.
WhatsApp used a fork of XMPP called funxmpp
08:05:35
@telegram_67554345:calyx.devjeff lemon (Telegram) their "security whitepaper" doesnt mention double ratched at all, nor xmpp https://www.whatsapp.com/security/WhatsApp-Security-Whitepaper.pdf 08:06:43
@telegram_67554345:calyx.devjeff lemon (Telegram)-_-08:06:54
@telegram_67554345:calyx.devjeff lemon (Telegram)they keep referencing "the signal protocol"08:07:19
@ssi8e:envs.netbqfls2
In reply to @telegram_67554345:calyx.dev
signal uses Double Ratchet Algorithm, and so does omemo
even megolm and olm implement double ratchet
08:08:14
@ssi8e:envs.netbqfls2it's not the exact same08:08:21
@telegram_67554345:calyx.devjeff lemon (Telegram)
In reply to @ssi8e:envs.net
even megolm and olm implement double ratchet
yeah but those are for matrix, which uses json instead of xml afaik
08:08:40
@telegram_67554345:calyx.devjeff lemon (Telegram)lol matrix and xmpp are completely different beasts and here i am comparing the underlying data format lmao08:09:07
@ssi8e:envs.netbqfls2
In reply to @telegram_67554345:calyx.dev
they keep referencing "the signal protocol"
double ratchet is an algorithm
08:09:27
@ssi8e:envs.netbqfls2the protocol is signal08:09:31
@telegram_67554345:calyx.devjeff lemon (Telegram)
In reply to @ssi8e:envs.net
the protocol is signal
they could have mentioned "double ratchet" at least once
08:09:55
@telegram_67554345:calyx.devjeff lemon (Telegram) * their "security whitepaper" doesnt mention double ratchet at all, nor xmpp https://www.whatsapp.com/security/WhatsApp-Security-Whitepaper.pdf 08:10:01
@ssi8e:envs.netbqfls2eh08:10:15
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@freshgum_bubbles:mozilla.orgairwaves
In reply to @snowiecrash:matrix.org
Honestly YouTube app isn't my favorite way of getting hypnotized yet, so for me, if they inject ads they stop being used; I speak for educational projects, every conference will have their own site: https://media.ccc.de/ again without relying on the funny opinions of Google. I guess if they push that move out, there will be someone else adding -1 ad to their platform, and with less restrictions than them, starting from China and so on.
that's good, I hope that works out well :)
11:44:59
@freshgum_bubbles:mozilla.orgairwaves
In reply to @snowiecrash:matrix.org
That said, the ads are not what troubles me more, but the videos they suggest to watch and the shorts
I don't know... YouTube has taught me... way too much (that I'd otherwise not have a clue about), so I'm definitely grateful to it in that respect. it's definitely a treasure trove of information
11:45:44
@freshgum_bubbles:mozilla.orgairwaves* I don't know... YouTube has taught me... way too much (that I'd otherwise not have a clue about), so I'm definitely grateful to it in that respect. it's definitely a treasure trove of information; yes, it has weird videos too, but that's par for the course 🤷11:45:59
@freshgum_bubbles:mozilla.orgairwaves* that's good, I hope that works out well :) then you're not at the whims of Google, which can only be a good thing.11:46:17

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