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27 Dec 2024
@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <skorp69:discord> Add ons are additional attack surface and are given a lot of trust (re @arbel:matrix.spacetime.technology: > <@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.org> &lt;skorp69:discord&gt; Don't use Firefox is my idea

none of t...)

16:14:47
@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <zabrinu:discord> Mull is no longer maintained though? 16:15:39
@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <zabrinu:discord> RIP that sucks 16:15:43
@arbel:matrix.spacetime.technologyarbeladdons add features that i need, like a proper adblocker and proxy support, chromium doesn't have those at all16:16:48
@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <skorp69:discord> Chromium does have it, and it's implemented without the need for extensions. 16:17:16
@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <skorp69:discord> Chromium uses a content filter engine 16:17:35
@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <skorp69:discord> Vanadium has basic block lists 16:17:43
@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <skorp69:discord> Brave makes more extensive use of the content filter and makes the lists configurable 16:18:13
@arbel:matrix.spacetime.technologyarbel
In reply to @grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.org
<zabrinu:discord> RIP that sucks
it really does... i have been u
happily using it for a few years.
16:18:45
@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <zabrinu:discord> With Firefox's refusal or inability to fix site isolation in Gecko I'm not too surprised 16:19:46
@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <zabrinu:discord> Why maintain it if the program its based on can't even figure their own stuff out 16:20:09
@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <skorp69:discord> Those extensions make you more fingerprintable, are more vulnerable to being exploited, and also have pretty broad access to all the content you load 16:20:36
@potassiumxr:kde.orgpotassiumxrI really like some of the features that Firefox has on android, and some aspects in user interface(subjective). But the browser is unfortunately lacking in speed and most importantly in security, so I only use it on secondary mobile that does not have anything important in it.16:20:24
@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <skorp69:discord> The developer for divest and the related projects has stopped for anything directly Android related (re @zabrinu: Why maintain it if the program its based on can't even figure their own stuff out) 16:22:04
@potassiumxr:kde.orgpotassiumxrAlso, I have a question. Does using ublock origin without any further modifications and as an only addon increase or decrease privacy and/or security?16:23:40
@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <zabrinu:discord> That sucks, did he say why? (re @skorp69: The developer for divest and the related projects has stopped for anything directly Android related) 16:25:02
@arbel:matrix.spacetime.technologyarbel
In reply to @grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.org
<skorp69:discord> Those extensions make you more fingerprintable, are more vulnerable to being exploited, and also have pretty broad access to all the content you load
perhaps they do, but browsing without a good adblocker is just unusable for me at this point, and whatever vanadium uses is not good enough to replace ublock origin
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@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <skorp69:discord> Try Brave 16:27:54
@metahuman1:matrix.orgmetahuman1

Is Ublock Origin compatible with Vanadium? Because I think I'd rather use that and then use Vanadium for Youtube than have a youtube app on the phone. Youtube is getting really bad with Ads. Really. Really bad.

And I need my music to get through a work out at the gym. Or some of the BS at work.

16:27:57
@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <skorp69:discord> https://divestos.org/pages/news#end (re @zabrinu: That sucks, did he say why?) 16:28:33
@arbel:matrix.spacetime.technologyarbel
In reply to @grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.org
<skorp69:discord> Try Brave
is there a mobile brave version with the crypto garbage removed?
16:29:11
@skorp:catgirl.cloudskorpYou can just disable any of that in the settings.16:29:29
@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <zabrinu:discord> Huh, no answers. Seems kinda sudden and unfair for the people using it 16:30:03
@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <zabrinu:discord> Huh, no answers. Seems kinda sudden and unfair for the people using it. 16:30:19
@potassiumxr:kde.orgpotassiumxr
In reply to @metahuman1:matrix.org

Is Ublock Origin compatible with Vanadium? Because I think I'd rather use that and then use Vanadium for Youtube than have a youtube app on the phone. Youtube is getting really bad with Ads. Really. Really bad.

And I need my music to get through a work out at the gym. Or some of the BS at work.

As far as I know it is not compatible. I suggest to consider looking into an app called newpipe. It lets you watch YouTube without ads, in background, and you can download videos.
16:30:40
@hypokeimenon:envs.netpacienco 🏳️‍🌈
In reply to @metahuman1:matrix.org

Is Ublock Origin compatible with Vanadium? Because I think I'd rather use that and then use Vanadium for Youtube than have a youtube app on the phone. Youtube is getting really bad with Ads. Really. Really bad.

And I need my music to get through a work out at the gym. Or some of the BS at work.

No, most android distributions of Chromium do not have support for extensions. A few do but are very questionable with regard to staying up to date and security. Brave is the only mainstream project with an equivalent content blocking implementation.
16:30:43
@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <skorp69:discord> I think it's fair to the devs though. They have been doing so for free for a long time. (re @zabrinu: Huh, no answers. Seems kinda sudden and unfair for the people using it.) 16:31:02
@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <.f1nal.:discord> he said elsewhere that he was just tired of working on it as long as he had, it was over a decade he started open-source work (re @zabrinu: Huh, no answers. Seems kinda sudden and unfair for the people using it.) 16:31:18
@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <zabrinu:discord> Yeah, I see that. More of a heads up would have been nice though 16:32:28
@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <skorp69:discord> Hopefully it helps move people to newer and more secure devices 16:33:01

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