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22 Jun 2023
@sheogorath:shivering-isles.comSheogorath
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Oh, this is a big one: https://lwn.net/Articles/935592/

Will be interesting to see how rocky and alma linux react.

There is actually some insight into the build processes: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/XM6BNUHKI3EKTDEXAAVE3JBPCG3BPUJC/

I'm not entirely sure what to make from it, but I guess it's not wrong. But in this case the announcement isn't really well written

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26 Jun 2023
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27 Jun 2023
@paul:astaluk.icu@paul:astaluk.icuhttps://techcrunch.com/2023/06/27/an-encryption-exodus-looms-over-uks-online-safety-bill/ Well that's interesting. Apparently Apple has tossed their voice into this arena.22:50:48
28 Jun 2023
@chrislas:jupiterbroadcasting.comchrislas
In reply to @paul:astaluk.icu
https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/27/an-encryption-exodus-looms-over-uks-online-safety-bill/

Well that's interesting. Apparently Apple has tossed their voice into this arena.
This, and this: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/4913 combined are making me quite worried.
16:53:04
29 Jun 2023
@paul:astaluk.icu@paul:astaluk.icu
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This, and this: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/4913 combined are making me quite worried.
Wonder if they gave any thought as to how they planned to enforce either bill. I know both the UK and ourselves like to think we are the world, but really. Wack a mole gets boring after a while.
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30 Jun 2023
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6 Jul 2023
@beardedtek:beardedtek.combeardedtekListening to today's LAN and I really really hope this is just a summer break. If there's anything we as a community can do to help in these tough times, let us know. Personally, contributing money is just not in the budget, but any services, moderation, or just jokes to make you guys laugh a little are all well within my realm. I've tried to tell you guys this often, but my passion for Linux was restored because of Jupiter Broadcasting. I support your decisions 100% and pray for the network's future. Seriously, DM me, ask for my number, run anything by me if you think it might help you guys out.18:13:33
@freekvh:matrix.orgfreekvh
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Listening to today's LAN and I really really hope this is just a summer break. If there's anything we as a community can do to help in these tough times, let us know.

Personally, contributing money is just not in the budget, but any services, moderation, or just jokes to make you guys laugh a little are all well within my realm.

I've tried to tell you guys this often, but my passion for Linux was restored because of Jupiter Broadcasting.

I support your decisions 100% and pray for the network's future.

Seriously, DM me, ask for my number, run anything by me if you think it might help you guys out.
I don't mean to speak for JB bit it's probably just money man, a person's got to eat ;) but the more fans, the more fans with money. So spread the word, keep the community alive and welcoming, give feedback, basically: keep it up. It's appreciated by any community member, disposable income or not.
18:32:43
@beardedtek:beardedtek.combeardedtekThat's true, but the whole value 4 value philosophy holds true. If there's a service or something they'd normally have to pay for that I could do, I'm all for it. Value comes in many forms.18:34:02
@freekvh:matrix.orgfreekvhI've though about it, also offered it at times. I think we in general underestimate the scale of the JB operation by a large margin. Anything we can do that matters will probably be costly, or a very very large time investment. But maybe you can come up with something, idk. I share your sentiment.18:46:37
@freekvh:matrix.orgfreekvhAnd I bet it's appreciated18:46:59
@freekvh:matrix.orgfreekvh * I've though about it, also offered it at times. I've come to the conclusions that us fan, in general, probably underestimate the scale of the JB operation by a large margin. Anything we can do that matters will probably be costly, or a very very large time investment. But maybe you can come up with something, idk. I share your sentiment.18:48:27
@freekvh:matrix.orgfreekvh * I've though about it, also offered it at times. I've come to the conclusions that us fans, in general, probably underestimate the scale of the JB operation by a large margin. Anything we can do that matters will probably be costly, or a very very large time investment. But maybe you can come up with something, idk. I share your sentiment.18:48:37
@freekvh:matrix.orgfreekvh * I've though about it, also offered it at times. I've come to the conclusions that us fans, in general, probably underestimate the scale of the JB operation by a very large margin. Anything we can do that matters will probably be costly, or a very very large time investment. But maybe you can come up with something, idk. I share your sentiment.18:49:24
@freekvh:matrix.orgfreekvh * I've thought about it, also offered it at times. I've come to the conclusions that us fans, in general, probably underestimate the scale of the JB operation by a very large margin. Anything we can do that matters will probably be costly, or a very very large time investment. But maybe you can come up with something, idk. I share your sentiment.18:49:32
@freekvh:matrix.orgfreekvh * I've thought about it, also offered it at times. I've come to the conclusion that us fans, in general, probably underestimate the scale of the JB operation by a very large margin. Anything we can do that matters will probably be costly, or a very very large time investment. But maybe you can come up with something, idk. I share your sentiment.18:49:41
@freekvh:matrix.orgfreekvhMoney is the combined small efforts of all fans, and does not require any coordination. I think of it this way, if there are 10.000 fans and they all want do do something but need 10-30 min of explaining. It's insane. Listen on fountain, boost the sats to JB ;) Maybe a time will come when you have some money to spare. Or not.18:53:23
@freekvh:matrix.orgfreekvhIdk, I bet the crew has spend a lot of time thinking of something smart, something worthwhile.18:54:12
@beardedtek:beardedtek.combeardedtekThats very true.18:59:55
@hank:myportal.social@hank:myportal.social Even though I really don’t listen to anything besides Coder Radio any longer, it’s just not doing it for me, I’ve been keeping up my full subscription since I know times are tough 20:17:38

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