| 11 Dec 2024 |
 poVoq | It's a cascading effect of bad protocol design and dunning kruger effect on the side of the Element developers. | 11:39:00 |
 Skyflare ⚡️ |
bad protocol design
No, the protocol 100% right on this
dunning kruger effect on the side of the Element developers
Idk about the reasons but yes, it's 100% on the Bridge's development
| 11:40:45 |
| * Skyflare ⚡️ has a really wild baiting/trolling idea but has to wait until this discussion cools down to avoid causing spontaneous combustion to others | 11:43:13 |
| poVoq | The protocol is 100% wrong on this. Even if you have a system that distrubutes the channels on multiple servers, the servers are still relevant to its function and should not be hidden. | 11:43:46 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | If you go this way then you have to show when any server goes down (such as Noisy's) | 11:44:50 |
| poVoq | Admittably this is also a problem on irc networks to some extend. | 11:44:57 |
| poVoq | Skyflare ⚡️: no you don't have to | 11:45:43 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | btw this isn't the main issue we were discussing, the main issue was about showing the irc server's domain since it is extremely relevant what the room is about | 11:45:44 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | :'( | 11:46:20 |
| poVoq | The core issue is that matrix users are complaining about issues that are solely caused by matrix. | 11:46:51 |
| poVoq | Just stop using matrix 🤷♂️ | 11:47:06 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ |
The core issue is that matrix users are complaining about issues that are solely caused by matrix.
To be more accurate, the matrix users are complaining about issues caused by the bridge which is developed by the same entity that developed matrix AFAIK
| 11:48:51 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ |
Just stop using matrix 🤷♂️
Or just move fgd rooms to matrix exclusively 🤷♂️ (troll, do not take seriously)
| 11:49:47 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ |
The core issue is that matrix users are complaining about issues that are solely caused by matrix.
Also this is the most effective chance for me to drop my bait but it will be too dangerous to actually do :(
| 11:50:35 |
| poVoq | I might move FGD rooms exclusively to xmpp 😛 | 11:52:21 |
 franzopow | Then you'll have just 2 users | 12:38:22 |
 emorrp1 | Lol, seems like I've missed some epic trolling, you both have some good points but seem to be talking past each other because you're trying to talk in generalities rather than specifics. Please take protocol wars (and deliberate bait) to #libregaming-offtopic:tchncs.de .
As a concrete suggestion, it seems @skyflare:conduit.rs: has missed the fact the bridge does support what is needed to resolve this for the FGD portals: | 12:42:26 |
| poVoq | ? | 12:45:23 |
| emorrp1 | ah nope, forget that, I was looking at the aliasTemplate setting (actually I was thinking of the mautrix-* bridges). @irc_poVoq:matrix.f-hub.org's right, the bridge doesn't support customising the room naming scheme. | 12:50:08 |
| emorrp1 | @irc_poVoq:matrix.f-hub.org was in the middle of typing it, then had to correct myself so I don't have a concrete suggestion | 12:50:49 |
| poVoq | Ok | 12:51:05 |
| franzopow | Concrete suggestion: space creation which was already implemented | 13:04:04 |
 skyflare | franzopow: Are you saying that there is a f-hub/freegamedev space? | 13:16:02 |
| franzopow | I did create it yes | 13:20:03 |
| franzopow | But from schildichat next I can't post the link | 13:20:11 |
| 12 Dec 2024 |
| franzopow | https://matrix.to/#/#freegamedev:matrix.org | 15:10:32 |
|  telmo joined the room. | 20:04:35 |
| 13 Dec 2024 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | After a quick glance of the #matchmaking history, it appears that starting from October ".del" was used 8 times (2 of which were for testing and 2 were by the same user but with different nicks) while ".remove" was accidentally used instead of 4 times (with only one of them being effective as the others were by none admins) | 05:27:15 |
| * Skyflare ⚡️ didn't even need to look at the history since he already knows that this is a super common issue | 05:28:15 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | I suggest that we just replace ".remove" with something a lot clearer (and maybe make ".remove" an alias for ".add") | 05:29:52 |
