| 11 Dec 2024 |
 poVoq | They are clear if you have a client that doesn't hid the server part. | 10:45:49 |
| poVoq | *hide | 10:45:55 |
 Skyflare ⚡️ | the name "#general" only make sense on a specific network, once it's outside on federated networks it's ambiguous | 10:45:57 |
| poVoq | Not on xmpp | 10:46:09 |
| poVoq | Xmpp makes it clear that it is the general channel on that specific network, so does IRC. | 10:46:56 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | poVoq: the default on matrix is to display the "Name" only and not the address | 10:47:01 |
| poVoq | Yes, and that is bad UI design. | 10:47:24 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | No, that's because rooms are actually federated and the server in the alias isn't relevant | 10:47:52 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | in matrix | 10:47:58 |
 franzopow | Lol povoq | 10:48:07 |
| poVoq | Which is bad protocol design | 10:48:11 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | "Federated rooms are bad protocol design"
-- poVoq | 10:48:33 |
| franzopow | Yeah leave him alone | 10:48:41 |
| franzopow | Deluded as always | 10:48:45 |
| poVoq | They way they are implemented in Matrix, yes. | 10:48:53 |
| franzopow | Anyway I don't get the "server" part | 10:48:54 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | poVoq: This is literally the biggest advantage of the Matrix protocol | 10:48:56 |
| franzopow | Because on matrix you see the "server" for examppe the libera rooms | 10:49:07 |
| franzopow | They have #povoq:libera.chat | 10:49:16 |
| franzopow | Or at least I think that's how I joined back then | 10:50:10 |
| poVoq | franzopow: its quite hidden in Matrix. Which is the cause why you think the room isn't clearly labled. | 10:50:19 |
| franzopow | Your rooms have f-hub | 10:50:27 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | Server names are intentionally decoupled from the rooms in matrix, so relying on them to convey info is a horrible practice | 10:50:53 |
| franzopow | In reply to @irc_poVoq:matrix.f-hub.org
franzopow: its quite hidden in Matrix. Which is the cause why you think the room isn't clearly labled. Not really but it's an extra click to navigate into the room and check the address | 10:51:08 |
| franzopow | Skyflare he is not used to great features | 10:51:29 |
| franzopow | Because xmpp and irc don't have "spaces" | 10:51:37 |
| poVoq | Skyflare ⚡️: it is not, especially when dealing with bridged rooms where the server absolutely matters. | 10:51:42 |
| * Skyflare ⚡️ would actually blame the bridge's design for not taking this into consideration | 10:51:46 |
| franzopow | In reply to @franzopow:matrix.org
sent an image. Povoq ^ | 10:51:58 |
| franzopow | The fhub part is there | 10:52:09 |
