| 7 Sep 2018 |
 @davidak:matrix.org | i think in this case, the cost per user would be so low, that administrative costs would be higher than actual service costs | 12:11:56 |
 @juh_:matrix.org | How many full time administrators are you planning to hire when teahub starts to fly? | 12:12:53 |
| @davidak:matrix.org | like wikipedia. imagige you have to pay for every page visit. how many people would be willing to do a payment of say, 0,01€ every time and some people even can't do that like children ore homeless people without a bank account. i think it's important that everyone can use such a service | 12:13:12 |
 hw | mailbox.org is a commercial entity (GmbH incorporated at address just 5min away from where I am typing this right now), we are explicitly striving for non-profit, because we consider Free and Open Software a common good | 12:13:37 |
| hw | Did you have a chance to read our mission statement in preamble of the Satzung? We hoped to make our point clear there, please let us know if there is anything we can express more clearly or improve! | 12:15:01 |
| @juh_:matrix.org | yes mailbox.org is striving for profit – maybe this is the reason that the service is getting slower. ;-) | 12:15:16 |
| hw | Please find the draft document here: https://staging.teahub.io/TeaHub/Satzung | 12:15:43 |
| @juh_:matrix.org | I think the Satzung throwed a 4040 | 12:15:45 |
| @juh_:matrix.org | 404 | 12:15:48 |
| hw | that shouldnt happen | 12:16:04 |
| hw | when I tried just a minute ago it worked | 12:16:12 |
| hw | what URL are you using? | 12:16:16 |
| @davidak:matrix.org | works for me | 12:16:35 |
| @juh_:matrix.org | this link works it was yesterday when I browsed the teahub pages | 12:17:51 |
| @davidak:matrix.org | https://teahub.io/satzung.html also works | 12:18:12 |
| @davidak:matrix.org | was it that url? | 12:20:25 |
| @juh_:matrix.org | Do you know if gitea will have activitypub federation? | 12:26:30 |
| @davidak:matrix.org | there is a workgroup working on federation | 12:27:16 |
| hw | I know there has been talk about this in the gitea developer team, but as far I am aware the activitypub federation standard is not even remotely close to getting finalized? | 12:27:31 |
| @davidak:matrix.org | https://github.com/forgefed/forgefed | 12:27:35 |
| hw | yes, they renamed it a few weeks ago | 12:27:55 |
| hw | As soon it materializes, and gitea supports it, we should definitely enable and support it | 12:28:22 |
| @davidak:matrix.org | i think there are people from the gitea and gitlab community | 12:28:25 |
| @juh_:matrix.org | Federation makes new models of financing such services possible. | 12:29:25 |
| @juh_:matrix.org | You could setup a small instance for a small group of people (a school, a club, a company whatever) and still have all the code at your fingertips. | 12:30:22 |
| @juh_:matrix.org | For me this is much better than have a big central instance even if it is a non-profit organization like wikipedia | 12:31:24 |
| hw | yes, a very interesting development | 12:31:24 |
| @davidak:matrix.org | like the mastodon instances, right? | 12:31:28 |
| hw | otoh there are people claiming git has always been federated, it is in essence old news in git-land: https://drewdevault.com/2018/07/23/Git-is-already-distributed.html | 12:31:45 |
| hw | both sides have interesting arguments, very interesting to watch | 12:32:04 |
