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1 Dec 2023
@idkrnx:matrix.orgidkrnx
In reply to @markusbug:matrix.org
Are there any plans to fix passkeys on Graphene? This is the exception I got when I tried to create one
they aren't broken
15:09:31
@g40ce7zmhtkh0jtvgu6rytagei2n2fa170ko6ar9l7fdh4nnos0ortwnfjlyfvsr:matrix.orgHybridStaticAnimate
In reply to @stringerbell353ie:matrix.org
Any information about Graphenes susceptibility to Pegasus and Predator spyware and tools for detection?
https://grapheneos.org/features#exploit-protection

https://grapheneos.org/usage#auditor
15:39:28
@stringerbell353ie:matrix.orgstringerbell353ieThanks, was a good read16:29:32
@somegirl:matrix.orgRishitha removed their profile picture.17:23:40
@blicero:matrix.orgblicero
In reply to @idkrnx:matrix.org
securing local networks is useful to prevent people spending all your bandwidth lol
Do you have some tips on securing a local network?
21:35:15
@roamer4223:matrix.orgroamer4223
In reply to @idkrnx:matrix.org
it's already done for you
I was talking about my home WiFi/local network, what do you mean it's already done for me?

Again please forgive my ignorance if I am asking stupid questions. I have VLANs which I use to try and separate all devices (of which I keep to a minimum anyway) but the only authentication they have to provide is the WiFi password which I change occasionally. I don't use IOT devices or anything like that and also won't be using Bluetooth devices much if at all now.

Anyway this is definitely off topic and I doubt anyone cares about my setup haha
22:26:47
@roamer4223:matrix.orgroamer4223
In reply to @blicero:matrix.org
Do you have some tips on securing a local network?
But yea same, I am very open to any tips as well
22:27:58
@roamer4223:matrix.orgroamer4223 Though as I said it's probably too off topic for this room 22:29:27
@elephantability:matrix.orgelephantabilityWhen using the stock file manager to open a video in a third party app, does it grant the app write access or is it limited to read?22:32:56
@roamer4223:matrix.orgroamer4223
In reply to @elephantability:matrix.org
When using the stock file manager to open a video in a third party app, does it grant the app write access or is it limited to read?
Do you mean going into the file manager and opening from there or going on to third party app and using the system file picker to open the video from there?

I don't know the answer to your question by the way, but I just wondered if it would make a difference 
23:06:19
@idkrnx:matrix.orgidkrnx
In reply to @blicero:matrix.org
Do you have some tips on securing a local network?
not me lol
23:11:25
@idkrnx:matrix.orgidkrnx
In reply to @roamer4223:matrix.org
I was talking about my home WiFi/local network, what do you mean it's already done for me?

Again please forgive my ignorance if I am asking stupid questions. I have VLANs which I use to try and separate all devices (of which I keep to a minimum anyway) but the only authentication they have to provide is the WiFi password which I change occasionally. I don't use IOT devices or anything like that and also won't be using Bluetooth devices much if at all now.

Anyway this is definitely off topic and I doubt anyone cares about my setup haha
that won't help secure your device/the connections it makes. https etc. does this
23:11:59
@elephantability:matrix.orgelephantability
In reply to @roamer4223:matrix.org
Do you mean going into the file manager and opening from there or going on to third party app and using the system file picker to open the video from there?

I don't know the answer to your question by the way, but I just wondered if it would make a difference
Going into the file manager and opening from there. I can't find an answer anywhere
23:16:33
@roamer4223:matrix.orgroamer4223
In reply to @elephantability:matrix.org
Going into the file manager and opening from there. I can't find an answer anywhere
I may well be wrong but I am pretty sure if the third party app doesn't have access to that file via storage permission or storage scopes, then it will be read only. It may be able to edit the video for example but would have to save it as a copy and leave the original where it was
23:19:42
@roamer4223:matrix.orgroamer4223
In reply to @idkrnx:matrix.org
that won't help secure your device/the connections it makes. https etc. does this
see what you were saying now :)
23:20:33
@elephantability:matrix.orgelephantability
In reply to @roamer4223:matrix.org
I may well be wrong but I am pretty sure if the third party app doesn't have access to that file via storage permission or storage scopes, then it will be read only. It may be able to edit the video for example but would have to save it as a copy and leave the original where it was
That's what I was thinking too but I wanted to be sure. I appreciate it
23:31:27
@roamer4223:matrix.orgroamer4223
In reply to @elephantability:matrix.org
That's what I was thinking too but I wanted to be sure. I appreciate it
actually I might take that back
23:33:23
@roamer4223:matrix.orgroamer4223 just tried it with a text file created in one app, opened with another app that has no storage permission and I could edit that 23:34:34
@roamer4223:matrix.orgroamer4223 right, I guess I have your answer. It does depend on the file, whether it is read only or read write. So if the file is a already read write (which it probably is) then it can be edited.

at least from my test, which was creating a text file in termux, then opening it in beauTyXT. I could edit it initially. Then after changing the permissions of the file in termux with chmod 400 [text file], it would still open in beauTyXT but it showed as read only and couldn't be edited.
23:46:51
@elephantability:matrix.orgelephantability
In reply to @roamer4223:matrix.org
just tried it with a text file created in one app, opened with another app that has no storage permission and I could edit that
Do you think it could depend on the file type? I was hoping videos only got read access. Also was that through the "open with" on the stock file manager app?
23:46:55
@blicero:matrix.orgblicero
In reply to @idkrnx:matrix.org
not me lol
wrong reply, sorry
23:53:07
@roamer4223:matrix.orgroamer4223
In reply to @elephantability:matrix.org
Do you think it could depend on the file type? I was hoping videos only got read access. Also was that through the "open with" on the stock file manager app?
Yes it was through the "open with" on the stock file manager. Looks to me from my little 'test' I mentioned above it just depends on the file permissions of the particular file in question, which you can change I guess.

Or you could clone the file before opening it in the third party app, so you still definitely still have the original file unchanged
23:53:58
@elephantability:matrix.orgelephantability
In reply to @roamer4223:matrix.org
Yes it was through the "open with" on the stock file manager. Looks to me from my little 'test' I mentioned above it just depends on the file permissions of the particular file in question, which you can change I guess.

Or you could clone the file before opening it in the third party app, so you still definitely still have the original file unchanged
Oh nevermind I guess that makes sense. I thought the file manager got to choose to grant read or write when opening to another app with the content uri regardless of the actual read or write permissions of the file. I didn't know if the file manager grants write or not but maybe it doesn't matter
23:55:07
@elephantability:matrix.orgelephantabilityI appreciate your test and answers though thank you23:55:22
2 Dec 2023
@roamer4223:matrix.orgroamer4223
In reply to @elephantability:matrix.org
Oh nevermind I guess that makes sense. I thought the file manager got to choose to grant read or write when opening to another app with the content uri regardless of the actual read or write permissions of the file. I didn't know if the file manager grants write or not but maybe it doesn't matter
To be honest I hadn't really thought about it before and am glad I actually have now, I kind of assumed the same as you at first. But it makes sense now I think about it, if it grants access to the file, it will just depend on the file and what permissions it has. So thanks very much for the interesting question!

I hope we reached the right conclusion anyway :)
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@grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.orgGrapheneOS Bridge <cluberic:discord> First time installing GOS and just installed it on a pixel 8 via web installer, process was easy and worked first time. 01:11:46
@dylanger:matrix.orgDylangerAnyone know of a decent Signal API for "Bots"/API sending messages?02:49:11
@westerquoth:matrix.orgWester Quoth joined the room.02:53:01
@westerquoth:matrix.orgWester QuothAny updates on the duress PIN feature?02:54:03
@matchboxbananasynergy:matrix.orgmatchboxbananasynergy!
In reply to @westerquoth:matrix.org
Any updates on the duress PIN feature?
It's in development
02:56:05

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