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22 Nov 2021
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehikAnd the way it works is that a principal gets a unique id per-dApp through II23:26:32
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehikbut they're different cross-dApp23:26:46
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehikand if you are concerned about the privacy risks - principals are free.23:26:59
@alveolina:matrix.orgalveolinaSorry, what is a principal?23:31:43
23 Nov 2021
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehikA principal is an IC wallet so to speak15:03:20
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehikI mean, really a principal is a GUID for entities on the IC.15:03:40
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehikSo ex. neurons and canisters can also be principals15:17:06
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehikBut from a user side that's not that important.15:17:11
@alveolina:matrix.orgalveolina
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So ex. neurons and canisters can also be principals
Cheers. That's helpful. The simple act of getting on to IC is an undertaking. WHat I think I understand is that you either get on to it using mobile phone with NFC or via PC but on PC you need a Yubikey. Is that right?
17:51:56
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehik"Making an IC principal" is different from "making an internet identity"17:57:03
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehikFor Internet Identity - your hypothesis is correct, although iirc II also supports Windows Hello17:57:37
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehikIf you just want an IC Principal you can get one by downloading the Plug wallet, made by the Fleek/Psychedelic team17:58:10
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehikThere's a ledger app in the works too17:58:19
@alveolina:matrix.orgalveolinaWIndows is off limits for me ... No windows in my house :-)17:58:26
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehik(I'm not sure what the release date is for ledger wallet, for the record - but the rumours are that they're close to validating it17:58:57
@alveolina:matrix.orgalveolina
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(I'm not sure what the release date is for ledger wallet, for the record - but the rumours are that they're close to validating it
sounds good. this Plug wallet also looks good. I think I need to get myself a Yubikey but I get the feel that there is a bit of a barrier for entry to the IC if this is to become widespread. yes, we are early days so I can see the potenial
18:04:23
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehikI can make a ton of principals just with the ordinary dfx command.18:05:13
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehikYou don't need a yubikey in particular18:05:21
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehikthe II is meant to replace OAUTH for IC-based dapps, and isn't intended to be a core part of the blockchain except in the sense that the foundation feels it adds value to IC-built dapps18:05:45
@alveolina:matrix.orgalveolinaalright, now what is "II"?18:06:38
@alveolina:matrix.orgalveolinaoh, I see Internet Identity18:06:48
@alveolina:matrix.orgalveolinalol18:06:50
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehikWhich is why you're seeing weird support like Windows Hello18:07:09
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehikand yubikey18:07:14
@alveolina:matrix.orgalveolinaTHe tutorials on the DFINITY community are a bit misleading. It looked like the first thing I needed was an II 18:11:25
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehikNope, the docs in general need significant work - one of my friends absolutely freaked out about centralized identity and auth and I had to explain "lol no, that's not how this works"18:13:37
@alveolina:matrix.orgalveolinawell glad that you explained it ... its one of the downsides that I picked up when doing a bit of search on the internet18:16:01
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehikTo be entirely frank , there were some way high-tier things I'm not privy to, in my estimation the project could've used another year before launch.18:17:35
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehikThe upside is that you get to be on the ground floor of the community figuring all this stuff out and making suggestions, feedback, etc18:17:57
@hik:aboveaverage.spacehikThe downside is that there's a lot of "ergonomic problems"18:18:07

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