| 5 Jul 2018 |
 @vsund:matrix.vsund.de | also to add: i understand that i have strong opinions on the freedom of chat, please don't let them get you off your decision of what's the best for the project :) | 14:51:38 |
| @vsund:matrix.vsund.de |
(not to forget the spirit/movement around it, federation/openness is a core belief of the community)
part of these beliefs are that nobody should force someone into a specific client/network for chats. that's one of the reasons why they started writing bridges for other chat networks (e.g. i can join all big irc networks, gitter, etc over the federated matrix network)
| 14:54:42 |
| @vsund:matrix.vsund.de | so we're might be able to meet everyone's beliefs with bridging a few networks (e.g. i'm in a gitter room over matrix, and noticed a few days after joining that it wasn't a matrix native one :D) | 14:56:22 |
| @vsund:matrix.vsund.de | guylepage3: what do you think of the ui/ux of https://zulipchat.com? (no federation but thread support) | 15:11:19 |
 @guylepage3:matrix.org | Yeah. I get the closed silo part for sure.. I HATE being locked in for sure.. But the UX needs to be there.. especially for onboarding people. | 15:33:21 |
| @guylepage3:matrix.org | There is also good old IRC... Lol. | 15:33:24 |
| @guylepage3:matrix.org | I feel as though every developer has used IRC at one point or another | 15:33:28 |
| @guylepage3:matrix.org set a profile picture. | 15:40:11 |
| @vsund:matrix.vsund.de | yeah, irc is still somehow surviving and i don't know why, despite (or probably because?) it has no features 🤔 | 15:48:10 |
| @vsund:matrix.vsund.de | i think irc has a strong community that really likes sticking to it (and probably also network effects) | 15:49:54 |
| @guylepage3:matrix.org | So seems as though a lot of large open source projects are using discord | 16:58:22 |
| @guylepage3:matrix.org | https://discordapp.com/invite/0ZcbPKXt5bZjGY5n | 16:58:24 |
| @guylepage3:matrix.org | React, etc.. | 16:58:34 |
| @guylepage3:matrix.org | hm.. I feel we should be using one of the main chat apps for onboarding folks. | 17:04:03 |
| @guylepage3:matrix.org | Gitter, Discord, Slack for chat... | 17:04:26 |
| @guylepage3:matrix.org | Then Discorse for our forum | 17:05:00 |
| @guylepage3:matrix.org | I've moved back over to Slack for the time being folks.. Having all these chat apps open is.. 😒 | 17:09:06 |
| @guylepage3:matrix.org | hmm... vsund just created a Zulip account. It's quite similar to Slack. | 17:14:11 |
| @vsund:matrix.vsund.de | i really like the ability to thread conversations, that a major bummer in slack | 17:15:06 |
| @vsund:matrix.vsund.de | e.g. hesitating to ask an engineering question because there's an on-going conversation in #engineering etc | 17:15:52 |
| @guylepage3:matrix.org | yeah.. | 17:17:13 |
| @guylepage3:matrix.org | seems like a lot of the big projects use Gitter or Discord.. | 17:17:48 |
| @guylepage3:matrix.org | do either offer thread support? | 17:17:57 |
| @vsund:matrix.vsund.de | iirc both not even offer the horrible slack-like threads 😅 | 17:19:49 |
| @guylepage3:matrix.org | Sorry for not being clear vsund but do Gitter or Discord offer thread support? | 17:27:48 |
| @vsund:matrix.vsund.de | not that i'm aware of, and i think they don't even have this horrible thread support slack offers | 17:29:41 |
| @guylepage3:matrix.org | wow.. hm.. how is this sooooo bad.. lol.. | 17:30:28 |
| @guylepage3:matrix.org | anyways.. i'm just heading back over to slack for the time being.. | 17:30:51 |
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