| 29 Jan 2023 |
 plein | and war, etc. the nature is indifferent | 16:24:38 |
 LightTate | In reply to @light-tate:anonymousland.org
to you there is no difference between let's say a landslide caused by the natural errosion of the terrain and one caused by deforestation ? | 16:24:55 |
| plein | that's another topic | 16:25:56 |
| LightTate | I didn't mention | 16:29:47 |
| LightTate | people were killed by both | 16:30:06 |
| plein | also, notice the nuances of language | 16:30:09 |
| plein | In reply to @light-tate:anonymousland.org
people were killed by both so i conclude that nature is oppressive too | 16:31:25 |
| plein | politics only solves part of the problem. the inborn inequality is more awful | 16:32:21 |
| plein | many things are out of human control | 16:34:15 |
| plein | In reply to @planetoryd:matrix.org
they are de facto states also this | 16:34:32 |
| LightTate | In reply to @planetoryd:matrix.org
politics only solves part of the problem. the inborn inequality is more awful it affects less people and can also be mitigated | 16:36:46 |
| LightTate | In reply to @planetoryd:matrix.org
many things are out of human control yes , but let's not use this as an excuse to not do anything regarding the problems we can solve | 16:39:38 |
| LightTate | probably your definition of a state is more broad than that used by us anarchists | 16:40:32 |
| plein | In reply to @light-tate:anonymousland.org
probably your definition of a state is more broad than that used by us anarchists if your definition of state is to have bureaucrats and any form of ruling group, then algocracy solves the problem | 16:42:38 |
| LightTate | anarchist societies have no relations of domination | 16:44:01 |
| plein | what if you really hate your neighbor | 16:44:33 |
| plein | you two have unresolvable conflict | 16:45:01 |
| LightTate | you go trough a mediation process facilitated by the local community | 16:46:24 |
| LightTate | for example | 16:46:26 |
| plein | you dont accept that | 16:46:41 |
| plein | you hate it | 16:46:51 |
| plein | imagine, and lots of conflicts exist | 16:47:15 |
| plein | okay, then in some aspect, the state acts as an arbitrator, you two has to accept the solution proposed by the state | 16:49:05 |
| LightTate | anyone can have a problem with anything | 16:49:15 |
| LightTate | and not accept it | 16:49:22 |
| plein | ofc, thats inevitable | 16:49:31 |
| LightTate | to goal is to make the process as fair as possible | 16:50:00 |
| plein | fair | 16:50:24 |
| LightTate | In reply to @planetoryd:matrix.org
okay, then in some aspect, the state acts as an arbitrator, you two has to accept the solution proposed by the state were is the state in this ? | 16:50:52 |
| plein | thats an example | 16:51:34 |
