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14 Jan 2021
@richardheigl:matrix.orgrichardheigl
In reply to @freephile:matrix.org
My comment about Jira was really just a personal anecdote to compare it with Maniphest. I don't think that WMF would adopt it, and I'm not advocating for that. I'm basically just complaining that Maniphest should be better.
Any recommendations for Jira alternatives? We recommend EasyRedmine as a feature-rich solution and the German Zammad for companies with lower requirements.
BTW an extension for Jira integration would be a step forward for the whole ecosystem.
19:21:56
@bryandamon:matrix.orgbryandamonProbably a stupid question because I've never used Jira, but how difficult would it be to reproduce the major parts in MediaWiki? 19:34:33
@richardheigl:matrix.orgrichardheiglYou can get a Jira system for free until 10 users. 19:37:08
@richardheigl:matrix.orgrichardheigl * You can get a Jira system for free until 10 users. It is worth to take a look.19:37:40
@freephile:matrix.orgrundgJira (like any full-fledged issue tracker) is a complex software application. I don't think MediaWiki would be a good framework to try to reproduce the features and functionality. You could certainly create a "Lite" version of an issue tracker using MediaWiki20:01:25
@freephile:matrix.orgrundgThe more interesting use case for MediaWiki is to integrate MediaWiki with popular issue trackers (even if that integration means a simple interwiki link table entry) so that it's easy to work with both tools in your environment.20:03:48
@revi:revi.xyzreviAt least I wish I could dynamically grab the object (ie. Task) title to MediaWiki... that would make life easier20:27:20
@sen-sai:matrix.orgCharly
In reply to @bryandamon:matrix.org
Probably a stupid question because I've never used Jira, but how difficult would it be to reproduce the major parts in MediaWiki?
Its in the list for the Content Services Platform Ad talked about at SMWCon,
21:00:29
@bryandamon:matrix.orgbryandamon Well, that's great to hear! Thanks for the update Charly! I think I need to rewatch Ad's talk. 21:02:15
@sen-sai:matrix.orgCharlyWell it'll be a community effort so no decisions have been made, but we have build certain features for our customers already and I agree with Freephile also. So my thought would be to have the most functionality in the CSP and then also have the options to connect to other platforms for e.g. syncing and such. But again, its just in the list at the moment, nothing concrete.21:06:46
@freephile:matrix.orgrundg revansx: I seem to recall you worked out a (JavaScript) solution to intercept the 'Save' action in MediaWiki to catch a condition where the session was stale and thus the edit would be lost. As I recall, it would alert the user to copy/save their work or something. Does that ring a bell? 21:59:45
@revansx:matrix.orgrevansx yes. a JS timer recommending that the user do something (anythng) to communicate with the server to keep the session alive. Happily I don't need that anymore because I'm using SAML SSO and not CA Policy Agent (spits on the ground) 22:27:05
@revansx:matrix.orgrevansxbasically I used a localsettings hook extension to add a hidden div to the page and a JS timer in Mediawiki:Common.js to un-hide it showing a notice and a ahref target=_new link to a page that would touch the server and then close22:29:35
@revansx:matrix.orgrevansxnow I have 19 hour long sessions 😀22:30:20
15 Jan 2021
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmodeAfter someone posted to wikitech-l about https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki-Docker, I'm adapting it today for my percona work00:31:39
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmodewell... for my mw dev wor00:31:48
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmode * well... for my mw dev work00:31:54
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmodebut I like to do too much all at once (its my nature), so I'm adding Percona00:32:24
@cicalese:matrix.orgcicaleseI tried to get it working with MySQL last week unsuccessfully, so I'll be interested if you get it working. I'm sure it is possible, but I was trying to use it for something else and didn't have much time to invest in working on it.00:36:09
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmodeLooking at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/operations/docker-images/production-images/+/12df179e5b7b1ccc2a35b1ff4978dbbc7359e1b1/images?autodive=0 (which does not appear to be the source, but might be useful) it looks like they don't have a DB image00:46:54
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmodePriming a DB image is tricky but let me try00:47:35
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmode(I did it before...)00:47:46
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmode cicalese: do you know the source for their jobrunner image? 01:00:29
@freephile:matrix.orgrundgMediaWiki-Docker is about to get an update that unbreaks things and adds some long-awaited features https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24544401:17:31
@freephile:matrix.orgrundg
In reply to @revansx:matrix.org
basically I used a localsettings hook extension to add a hidden div to the page and a JS timer in Mediawiki:Common.js to un-hide it showing a notice and a ahref target=_new link to a page that would touch the server and then close
Can you send me the code?
01:19:24
@revansx:matrix.orgrevansx freephile, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Revansx/Session_Notification_of_Renewal 02:13:14
@freephile:matrix.orgrundgawesome! thanks02:14:13
@revansx:matrix.orgrevansxIt's been a long time since I used it. I hope it works as is for you02:14:49
@revansx:matrix.orgrevansxThe nice thing is that the JS is simple and you can tailer the message in LocalSettings. 02:17:11
@revansx:matrix.orgrevansx * The nice thing is that the JS is simple and you can tailor the message in LocalSettings. 02:17:20

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