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14 Feb 2019
@tgr:matrix.orgtgr
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...I came here to note that WikiApiary is down
apparently it got hit by the Cloud VPS disk corruption, so not much to do about it
06:23:35
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmode
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apparently it got hit by the Cloud VPS disk corruption, so not much to do about it
Reference?
13:36:56
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmodehttps://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/cloud/2019-February/000538.html reference13:40:52
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmodeoooo! Even worse. wikiapiary/pub2 was one of two machines that didn't come back up: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/cloud/2019-February/000545.html13:44:09
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmodeHopefully, we'll know more soon!13:51:59
@cicalese:matrix.orgcicaleseYes, I checked on it a little while ago, and it is still unhappy. But, hopefully Andrew can recover the missing data. The issue with it seems to be that it was so large that it took a while to recover. That doesn't *necessarily* mean that it will suffer permanent data loss. My wikifarm was also affected and appears to be ok now.13:52:38
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmodeI've heard bad things about SSD failures. They don't seem to be as hardy as platters of spinning rust.13:53:54
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmodeHopefully there was some RAID action.13:54:13
@tgr:matrix.orgtgrthree SSDs failed at the same time, RAID doesn't really help there16:01:40
@tgr:matrix.orgtgrAIUI there was data loss for basically all VMs but not a huge amount so with some luck none of the data that actually matters was affected16:02:33
@tgr:matrix.orgtgrwikiapiary just takes longer to rescue because it had more data than most other VMs16:03:13
@tgr:matrix.orgtgrprobably a good idea to rebuild the VMs though, if that's easy to do16:04:33
@cicalese:matrix.orgcicalese Good incentive for me to migrate my wikis to a meza-built VM now that it supports debian. I believe meza will also make it easier to back up my wikis, right jamesmontalvo3 ? 16:06:27
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmode tgr: raid would help if each of the SSDs were in a different RAID5 array. Then the drive could fail and you'd just have to swap it out. 16:10:15
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmodebut, yeah, doesn't look like that.16:10:24
@freephile:matrix.orgrundg

I believe meza will also make it easier to back up my wikis, right jamesmontalvo3 ?

Meza makes backups on /every/ deploy unless you specifically tell it not to. The feature can sometimes be annoying if you forget to turn off backups while working through failed deploys because you can accidentally fill up your disk.

16:54:00
@freephile:matrix.orgrundg you turn off backups with --skip-tags backups 16:54:20
@freephile:matrix.orgrundg I meant --skip-tags backup 16:59:03
@freephile:matrix.orgrundg Check your Meza for this feature (I just added it, and jamesmontalvo3 merged it) with meza deploy [env] --list-tags 17:00:42
@jamesmontalvo3:matrix.orgjamesmontalvo3Let's not use this channel for in depth Meza comm.17:07:39
@freephile:matrix.orgrundgGeneral MW Q. I see plenty of documentation on how to add namespaces. How do you remove a namespace?17:08:01
@freephile:matrix.orgrundgso that it doesn't show up in teh Advanced Search dialog17:08:22
@jamesmontalvo3:matrix.orgjamesmontalvo3Move all the pages out of it then remove the namespace from your config17:10:13
@freephile:matrix.orgrundg
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Let's not use this channel for in depth Meza comm.
didn't notice the channel due to the almost invisible highlighting of Riot -- sorry
17:10:29
@freephile:matrix.orgrundg

Move all the pages out of it then remove the namespace from your config

I thought I did that... now that I have database access, I can check to make sure there are no articles in the namespace.

17:13:04
@freephile:matrix.orgrundgI might have to do it with CSS because for namespaces like Module, Widget and Gadget, I assume there's no way to remove them from config. And if there were it would probably be a bad idea because they're part of core.17:15:28
@freephile:matrix.orgrundgI wonder if there's a way to customize the Advanced Search box for groups (Admin) because there are a lot of default namespaces that don't make sense for regular users when 'regular users' don't edit: Template All talk namespaces Form Widget GeoJson Module Gadget17:22:49
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmode freephile: isn't there a newer search UI like on MW.o? (or maybe that's an extension.) That would help with the "I don't want to see all these namespaces!" I think. 17:36:02
@freephile:matrix.orgrundg hexmode: there is a new UI. I'm just not seeing it in Meza 32.x so I don't know what's responsible for it 17:40:14
@freephile:matrix.orgrundgwait a minute, I think that's the 'Advanced Search' extension17:41:02

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