| 23 Jun 2021 |
 Mrtn | In reply to @hanno_jg:matrix.org
also, I feel like ditto is missed a bit by people as its not hosted on github š¤ Who the heck (in their right mind) would want to host on EvilCorps platform? | 08:39:54 |
 TimeWalker | I don't care about that at all. Gitlab is also hosted on Google Cloud so you're not really making a better deal out of it if you solely care about that. I just like Gitlab's workflow and feature set more | 09:12:23 |
 Annie E. | Yeah itās a small part of it for me that Iām not using something owned by Microsoft. Mostly I like gitlabās interface, and like you said, the feature set. It just makes sense how to use it, Iām sure GitHub is great too since so many people use it, itās just a matter of preference
I figure the people that might care about ditto are actually in the matrix community, who will probably see it on matrix.org or TWIM, and at that point itāll just link to the code where relevant | 15:33:53 |
 @jowj:awful.club | Gitlab hosted on google cloud is also not the same thing as your account being hosted with google cloud fwiw
like, if the options were āhave a personal account hosted with microsoft vs with googleā iād probably lean towards microsoft. google is just atrocious as customer support, and issues with your google account tend to impact shitloads of āotherā accounts with other vendors that use login with google
using gitlab, even though THEY are on GCP, is much less of a risk. gitlab will actually have things like an account rep they can hold responsible for issues that impact their stuff as a whole, as well as support staff you can talk to if just your account is having issues. | 16:22:12 |
| @jowj:awful.club | not that this is why annie in particular would use it, just some extra thoughts i guess | 16:22:25 |
| @jowj:awful.club | āthe best way to get support on an enterprise issue at google is know someone personally who works elsewhere in the companyā is still true | 16:23:07 |
| Annie E. | I actually didn't know that about google customer support! | 16:29:17 |
| @jowj:awful.club | itās a much-complained about issue. itās too bad - google is very good about many things! customer support is just not one of them lol
but yeah i think having a reputable intermediary (and non ālogin with googleā accounts) mitigates a lot of the risk involved with using them | 16:31:55 |
| Annie E. | I try to use sign in with email / password whenever possible. I remember the frustration I felt when I had initially used sign in with facebook for everything, then eventually decided "I don't want to do use facebook anymore" - but was trapped in it until I could change all those accounts (some of which, like spotify, I was unable to disconnect from fb)
so I never want to be dependent on a single company like that again | 16:43:00 |
| @jowj:awful.club | ugh yes, that happened to me too with FB. That was a big factor for me also moving to email / password | 16:43:41 |
| @jowj:awful.club | the dream is like, host my own IdP and then somehow get other services to support / host my own everything so i can make it all tie in | 16:44:16 |
| @jowj:awful.club | but until then, a bunch of email / password accounts. | 16:44:26 |
| Annie E. | ohhh that's a cool idea!!!
at least password managers make it not-a-nightmare | 16:45:20 |
| Annie E. invited  Annie Elequin. | 19:57:56 |
| Annie Elequin joined the room. | 19:58:00 |
| Annie E. | okay I need some problem solvers out there
I think I'm about to retire my ditto.chat server. It's at max RAM and disk usage for my droplet (which I don't think it should be, but I don't think I want to spend the time to troubleshoot it) so I probably want to move back to using my matrix.org account (ugh so much message history lost)
however, this room: I think it has an address alias at #ditto:matrix.org because I'm not able to make a new room. I was hoping to reset things so I could finally get admin status back for this room (it's on my elequin.io account because I accidentally shut that down a while back before assigning a new admin- WHOOPS) I don't see that alias in the room settings though...
goal: having #ditto:matrix.org with @aelequin:matrix.org as the admin. am I doomed?
| 22:30:45 |
 tulir | the permissions look like you can add moderators, but not admins | 22:37:47 |
| tulir | you can also do a manual upgrade to make a new room that this one redirects to ( https://gist.github.com/turt2live/a99c8e794d6115d4ddfaadb72aabf063) | 22:38:29 |
| Annie E. | hmm
so why am I unable to make #ditto:matrix.org? is it because someone ELSE has set that as an alias? | 22:41:28 |
| Annie E. | oh! I think I did! š
on my matrix account. | 22:41:56 |
| Annie E. | le sigh. no permission to change it | 22:42:56 |
| Annie E. | I think I might be doomed since I lost the admin account that created this room. note to self, always make more than one admin account. | 22:45:00 |
 uhoreg | Yeah, I think your best bet would be to do a manual upgrade as tulir suggested, and then email support@matrix.org to move the #ditto:matrix.org alias to the new room. | 22:52:14 |
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