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13 Nov 2020
@eaterjolly:matrix.orgCur_固嚛訥Your last sentence has 17 letters of entropy : p22:48:29
@eaterjolly:matrix.orgCur_固嚛訥 * Your last sentence has 16 letters of entropy : p22:48:53
@eaterjolly:matrix.orgCur_固嚛訥 * Your last sentence has 15 letters of entropy : p22:49:23
@vivit-r:ma.neko.barVIVIT I think the reason it isn't expressed in terms of information entropy is because mathematical objects are not really conceived as information. You can have information that represents a mathematical object, but that's not the same thing as the object itself. 23:19:19
@vivit-r:ma.neko.barVIVIT for example, {a, b} and {b, a} are different information, but they represent the same set. 23:19:50
@eaterjolly:matrix.orgCur_固嚛訥Vivit, may I ask if you contribute at all to the university system or if you purely self-study?23:20:55
@vivit-r:ma.neko.barVIVITI just self-study.23:21:33
@eaterjolly:matrix.orgCur_固嚛訥Aw, let me invite you to my other emptier channel too then! lol23:22:03
@eaterjolly:matrix.orgCur_固嚛訥I come to an interesting conclusion about Cicada 3301.23:23:45
@eaterjolly:matrix.orgCur_固嚛訥I believe they terminated the graduation process to the final puzzle, because they discovered a systemic reasoning error in the design process.23:27:24
@eaterjolly:matrix.orgCur_固嚛訥 * I come to an interesting hypothesis about Cicada 3301.23:31:24
@eaterjolly:matrix.orgCur_固嚛訥I will say hypothesis.23:31:34
@eaterjolly:matrix.orgCur_固嚛訥The error made first appearance with the song "Interconnectedness.mp3".23:35:15
@vivit-r:ma.neko.barVIVIThypothesis as opposed to theory? lol23:39:25
@eaterjolly:matrix.orgCur_固嚛訥Then re-appeared on the second page of avowyfgl5lkzfj3n.onion when a character in the second koan replies "I am professor" to "who are you" and again on the third page when that character's reference changes to "the professor".23:40:42
@vivit-r:ma.neko.barVIVITDon't beat yourself up over using one word or the other. The distinction only applies to the empirical sciences. Unless you intend to conduct a scientific experiment to test your guess, the hypothesis/theory distinction isn't actually relevant.23:42:18
@eaterjolly:matrix.orgCur_固嚛訥The hypothesis has a certain degree of external falsifiability. 23:41:01
@eaterjolly:matrix.orgCur_固嚛訥Mm political science doesn't really have the traditional sort of experiments. 23:43:22
@vivit-r:ma.neko.barVIVITIt's not an empirical science.23:43:37
@eaterjolly:matrix.orgCur_固嚛訥A contentious assertion!23:44:23
@vivit-r:ma.neko.barVIVITI thought you said it didn't have "the traditional sort of" experiments.23:45:55
@eaterjolly:matrix.orgCur_固嚛訥Lacks the pretense of a moral question about empires and science in there too. lol23:46:07
@vivit-r:ma.neko.barVIVIT...23:46:16
@eaterjolly:matrix.orgCur_固嚛訥In our discourse I mean23:46:20
@eaterjolly:matrix.orgCur_固嚛訥lol23:46:23
@vivit-r:ma.neko.barVIVITThat's not what the word "empirical" means.23:46:36
@vivit-r:ma.neko.barVIVITYou're thinking "imperial".23:46:42
@eaterjolly:matrix.orgCur_固嚛訥A lexical association exists! rofl23:47:01
@vivit-r:ma.neko.barVIVIT"Empirical" means "based on sensory experience".23:48:31
@eaterjolly:matrix.orgCur_固嚛訥If one assumes subjectivism, then science is an imperialism of the mind.23:48:53

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