| 13 Nov 2020 |
 Cur_固嚛訥 | * Japanese I translated a little via wiktionary recently, but I coined "ob" long ago. | 20:12:02 |
 VIVIT | So you should know what I mean when I say that "of" is the word English uses to mark the genitive case. | 20:12:05 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | I want to hit all your questions at some point let me post those here. | 20:13:34 |
| VIVIT | Not yet, plese. | 20:13:41 |
| VIVIT | * Not yet, please. | 20:13:46 |
| VIVIT | When you say "the opposite of of", what it almost sounds like your saying is "the opposite of the case genitive case". Is that correct? | 20:14:05 |
| VIVIT | * When you say "the opposite of of", what it almost sounds like your saying is "the opposite of the genitive case". Is that correct? | 20:14:15 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | well English of covers a lot more than possession, which apostrophe "s" renders redundant. | 20:15:16 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | I've needed to adapt to thinking of in more genitive semantics since studying Esperanto. | 20:15:53 |
| VIVIT | Yes, the English possessive case is a "special case" of the genitive. | 20:16:03 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | * I've needed to adapt to thinking "of" in more genitive semantics since studying Esperanto. | 20:16:04 |
| VIVIT | Although it is worth nothing that Modern English's possessive case is descended from a true genitive case that existed in Old English. This is why the apostrophe-s construction is sometimes called the "Saxon Genitive". | 20:17:26 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | "Of" tends to find romance in meaning "originating from", genitive "of" seems to extend from a sense of proprietorship. | 20:18:57 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | That "ownership" derives from the concept of evolving or making. | 20:19:32 |
| VIVIT | Thinking of some possible glosses for the word "of", all of which express possible uses of the genitive case: "belonging to", "associated with", "originating from", "comprised by", "characterized by" | 20:19:58 |
| VIVIT | What do you mean by "evolving" and "making"?
| 20:20:42 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | Note a couple equivalents for "ob": "on account of", "because of", "for the sake of" | 20:21:53 |
| VIVIT | Can I have some usage examples? | 20:22:14 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | We sought a true chicken ex;ob an egg. | 20:23:00 |
| VIVIT | Hold on. | 20:23:09 |
| VIVIT | I'm still trying to figure out "ob". | 20:23:13 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | Redacted or Malformed Event | 20:23:38 |
| VIVIT | (Brief tangent: am I supposed to pronounce that semicolon, and if so, how?) | 20:24:15 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | (not at all, I simply prefer semi-colon to forward slash) | 20:24:54 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | (a semantic boolean AND) | 20:25:20 |
| VIVIT | (Oh. Okay. Yeah, a semicolon does NOT communicate that at all.) | 20:26:05 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | The explorers searched for insects ob a forest paradise. | 20:28:21 |
| VIVIT | Alright. Can you give me an example sentence using just the plain "ob", not "ex-ob"? | 20:28:35 |
| VIVIT | Alright. | 20:28:44 |
| VIVIT | What does that mean? | 20:28:50 |
