| 13 Nov 2020 |
 Cur_固嚛訥 | Mm, more like a reverse-engineering attempt in lack of a reference. | 20:39:57 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | * Mm, more like a reverse-engineering attempt in absence of a reference. | 20:42:32 |
 VIVIT | Hmm. | 20:43:23 |
| VIVIT | Trying to think of how I would say this in Lojban. | 20:43:32 |
| VIVIT | Possibly lo fakli'u cu sisku tu'a lo cinki noi gasnu lo ricfoi zanzda. | 20:44:08 |
| VIVIT | "[The] explorer(s) seek [the] insect that brings about [a] forest paradise." | 20:47:09 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | mhm, certainly not a necessary coinage for traditional concepts but absolutely vital for information science. | 20:48:12 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | Also very helpful in social contract theory, imo. | 20:49:04 |
| VIVIT | Is that so? | 20:49:12 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | Ob helps you to index thought generators. | 20:49:46 |
| VIVIT | What's a thought generator? | 20:50:18 |
| VIVIT | I presume something that generates thoughts, but what kind of something? What does that look like? | 20:51:02 |
| VIVIT | A brain? | 20:51:12 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | Have you encountered the book "Godel, Esher, Bach"? | 20:52:25 |
| VIVIT | I've heard of it. | 20:52:40 |
| VIVIT | It's about consciousness as an emergent phenomenon, right? Anthropomorphic anthills, etc. | 20:53:40 |
| VIVIT | (I've never read it, I've just read abou tit.) | 20:53:50 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | I mean thought generator to mean a information which spontaneously generates other information. | 20:54:25 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | * I mean thought generator to mean information which spontaneously generates other information. | 20:54:37 |
| VIVIT | Eaterjolly, do you read mathematics? | 20:55:27 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | The first instance of information in that sentence broadly refers to the objects which that information represents. | 20:55:34 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | In reply to @vivit-r:ma.neko.bar
Eaterjolly, do you read mathematics? Only what Cicada 3301 or memes have exposed me to. | 20:56:18 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | In reply to @vivit-r:ma.neko.bar
Eaterjolly, do you read mathematics? * Only what Cicada 3301 or viral memes have exposed me to. | 20:56:47 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | * The first instance of information in that sentence broadly includes to the objects which that information represents. | 20:57:47 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | * The first instance of information in that sentence broadly includes the objects which that information represents. | 20:57:51 |
| VIVIT | I'm asking because there exist certain peculiarities of language usage that mathematical writing uses to precisely express concept that vernacular struggles to discuss. | 20:59:33 |
| VIVIT | I think you might find that interesting. | 21:01:33 |
| VIVIT | Have you ever heard the word "iff"? | 21:01:38 |
| Cur_固嚛訥 | Nope | 21:02:03 |
| VIVIT | It's a mathematical neologism. Lots of sciences coin new words, but they these all tend to be nouns and adjectives, maybe verbs. Mathematics is the only science I know of that has coined a new conjunction. | 21:03:43 |
