| 4 Jan 2024 |
 347online | I mean... it's not that that's what I want to do, that's just the hardware I have | 03:27:16 |
 Chief Idiocy Officer | The elusive Mac Gamer™️ | 03:27:40 |
| 347online | Dual-booting into linux is also not amazing on Silicon yet, so I don't really think that's viable currently either | 03:27:45 |
| 347online | Tell me about it hahaha | 03:27:57 |
| 347online | Today my jig I ordered on Amazon that let me put [REDACTED] on my [REDACTED] finally came, and I kinda realized that the device I wish my [REDACTED] was is a steam deck | 03:28:59 |
| 347online | But the GH repo is effectively... I don't want to say abandoned, but "no longer the source of truth" shall we say? | 03:29:58 |
| 347online | * But anyway, the GH repo is effectively... I don't want to say abandoned, but "no longer the source of truth" shall we say? | 03:30:14 |
| Chief Idiocy Officer | Yeah, pretty much. I should get around to properly archiving it at some point... | 03:31:18 |
| Chief Idiocy Officer | 2.0 is very complicated to develop without being able to directly upload assets, being an art overhaul and all, and it has a lot of surprises we want to keep from the community until release so as not to spoil the experience, so it's being worked on by the team privately. | 03:32:18 |
| 347online | Understandable | 03:32:32 |
| Chief Idiocy Officer | ProfessorG64 is the tool that patches 1.5.5 to 1.6, and that's where public development/issues should generally be opened for the public iteration of the updates. It's basically a single UndertaleModtool script that applies a few scripts and patches in new data where we need to overwrite things for compatibility, bugfixes, and bugfixes unrelated to the porting process. | 03:34:04 |
| 347online | There's a really interesting project called dejavu, that I don't know how many other people know about that aims to be a Legacy GM runner... emulator? Simulator? idk what to call it, written in Rust | 03:34:19 |
| Chief Idiocy Officer | Ah, for GM8 and earlier. There's an older project with a similar goal as well, though I can't remember the name right now. | 03:35:04 |
| 347online | If i'm not mistaken Dejavu is based on that one? | 03:35:18 |
| 347online | I want to say the dev mentioned GMS 1.x compat as a theoretical future nice-to-have, but it's obviously unrealistic to expect much from that until and unless it actually happens | 03:36:07 |
| Chief Idiocy Officer | Yeah, 8 to Studio was a pretty huge leap | 03:36:28 |
| 347online | Not ENIGMA, or LateralGM, right? | 03:36:28 |
| Chief Idiocy Officer | ENIGMA, that's what it was! | 03:36:35 |
| 347online | :D | 03:36:42 |
| 347online | I remember the ENIGMA effort being weeeeeiiiird in a cool way | 03:37:33 |
| Chief Idiocy Officer | * # Okay, so why no GMS2?
Lots of reasons, but they fall into four general categories:
1) Fundamental incompatibilities between GM:S 1.4 and GMS2
2) AM2R's reliance on specific quirks and behaviors of GM:S 1.4
3) Modding
4) The New Runtime
I'll address what I can remember off the top of my head in each category, which will be posted as individual messages underneath this one because I'm a bit long-winded.
If you're reading this from the 📌 please jump to message and scroll down for full details on each category. | 03:37:36 |
| Chief Idiocy Officer | * # Okay, so why no GMS2?
Lots of reasons, but they fall into four general categories:
1) Fundamental incompatibilities between GM:S 1.4 and GMS2
2) AM2R's reliance on specific quirks and behaviors of GM:S 1.4
3) Modding
4) The New Runtime
I'll address what I can remember off the top of my head in each category, which will be posted as individual messages underneath this one because I'm a bit long-winded.
If you're reading this from the 📌 please jump to message and scroll down for full details on each category. | 03:37:44 |
| Chief Idiocy Officer | I didn't ever follow it very closely, just remember the name being floated a few times in GM circles. | 03:38:11 |
| 347online | I want to say I installed and messed around with it for like, five minutes on my laptop in a public library, went "huh" and then forgot about it for a decade | 03:38:12 |
| 347online | yeahp, same, p much | 03:38:25 |
| 347online | Pre-studio GM was a wild time | 03:38:45 |
| 347online | back when the pro version only cost $30 | 03:38:55 |
| 347online | halcyon days lmao | 03:38:58 |
| Chief Idiocy Officer | well before when I stumbled into it, but I've heard one or two stories lol | 03:43:36 |
| Chief Idiocy Officer | * well before I stumbled into it, but I've heard one or two stories lol | 03:43:46 |
