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9 Mar 2021
@mrnovember:matrix.orgmrnovemberI am forgetting exactly what I did right now, but there is a BIOS setting you need to change for this to work19:33:39
@mrnovember:matrix.orgmrnovemberAt least on galp419:33:47
@mrnovember:matrix.orgmrnovemberThis is specifically for switching from thunderbolt to usb-c display19:34:38
@j0hnze:matrix.orgJohnthe model is NL41LU219:34:44
@j0hnze:matrix.orgJohn * the model is NL41LU219:34:57
@j0hnze:matrix.orgJohnim loving the system so far just the only down side is not knowing if a dock will work unless i buy it and test it lol19:36:28
@mrnovember:matrix.orgmrnovemberI thought the same when I first bought it. But right now, I have two displays connected. One is with the HDMI port, and one with a HDMI port on the USB-C dock19:37:33
@j0hnze:matrix.orgJohni will let you know if this new one works when it arrives20:40:23
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@jonah8:matrix.orgjonah8How does a person know which laptop by System76 is the best one for them? Also, am I correct in my understanding that unlike most, these laptops are easily upgradeable?12:00:38
18 Mar 2021
@dj_dc:matrix.orgDJ I'm one of the many holding out for a ThinkPad-style pointing stick, likely on a custom in-house build (could be a while into the future, at least after the new keyboard project) 00:55:55
@buzel:matrix.orgbuzelIt depends on what you want. Only the lemur and darter are going to get 9+ hour battery life while using it a lot (besides coding or text viewing). The WS models are workstations for either heavy gaming or heavy computational workloads (good for compiling large codebases too or video encoding, rendering, etc). The WS models will likely have poor battery life and poor performance on battery due to amount of power needed (my serval WS doesn't perform well on battery, but it has the ryzen 9 and the rtx 2070). The Oryx pro is their most popular, and has switchable graphics for optimized battery or optimized performance, but not sure what the maximum battery life is. The new pangolin has and AMD apu which is pretty good and with decent integrated graphics. All their laptops can have the RAM and m.2 drives upgraded, some have two m.2 slots, and the serval WS supports a 2.5in 7mm sata HDD or ssd in addition to two m.2s. It (the serval) also can have it's CPU upgraded as its an AM4 CPU socket with up to 65W tdp. 01:24:21
@buzel:matrix.orgbuzelThey are easy to upgrade, no glue to remove and the screw placement is simple. You don't have to take everything apart to do a RAM upgrade for example01:25:26
@buzel:matrix.orgbuzel* It depends on what you want. Only the lemur and darter are going to get 9+ hour battery life while using it a lot (besides coding or text viewing). The WS models are workstations for either heavy gaming or heavy computational workloads (good for compiling large codebases too or video encoding, rendering, etc). The WS models will likely have poor battery life and poor performance on battery due to amount of power needed (my serval WS doesn't perform well on battery, but it has the ryzen 9 and the rtx 2070). The Oryx pro is their most popular, and has switchable graphics for optimized battery or optimized performance, but not sure what the maximum battery life is. The new pangolin has and AMD apu which is pretty good and with decent integrated graphics. All their laptops can have the RAM and m.2 drives upgraded, some have two m.2 slots, and the serval WS supports a 2.5in 7mm sata HDD or ssd in addition to two m.2s. It (the serval) also can have it's CPU upgraded as its an AM4 CPU with 65W tdp. 01:26:43
@buzel:matrix.orgbuzel* It depends on what you want. Only the lemur and darter are going to get 9+ hour battery life while using it a lot (besides coding or text viewing). The WS models are workstations for either heavy gaming or heavy computational workloads (good for compiling large codebases too or video encoding, rendering, etc). The WS models will likely have poor battery life and poor performance on battery due to amount of power needed (my serval WS doesn't perform well on battery, but it has the ryzen 9 and the rtx 2070). The Oryx pro is their most popular, and has switchable graphics for optimized battery or optimized performance, but not sure what the maximum battery life is. The new pangolin has and AMD apu which is pretty good and with decent integrated graphics. All their laptops can have the RAM and m.2 drives upgraded, some have two m.2 slots, and the serval WS supports a 2.5in 7mm sata HDD or ssd in addition to two m.2s. It (the serval) also can have it's CPU upgraded as its an AM4 CPU socket with up to 65W tdp. 01:29:57
@jonah8:matrix.orgjonah8Thanks! My objectives will be a mix of web development, light graphic design, digital photography / videography, and audio production. I also have a large media library that would be great to have space for on the HD, but an external drive may be better suited for that aspect.01:34:05
@buzel:matrix.orgbuzelDoes screen resolution make a huge difference for you? Like, is 1920x1080 too low to work comfortably?01:39:37
@buzel:matrix.orgbuzelA couple of them have optical audio out, like the oryx and the bonobo WS, which could be useful? If you need a high res screen, only the bonobo has a 4k option. That might change in the future since 1440p screens are becoming more popular. You will likely want one with nvidia graphics for video encoding and speedup. The specs for the screens isn't shown, but some of them (the serval) support 99% sRGB 72% NTSC color space. If you try and find the clevo model that matches, you'll be able to get more details.01:49:15
@buzel:matrix.orgbuzelAlso, you can always reach out to their sales team with questions, they're really nice!01:50:09
@jonah8:matrix.orgjonah8I'm downsizing from an iMac... and I'm ditching all Apple products in light of their recent actions.02:12:10
@jonah8:matrix.orgjonah8I plan to use with an external display for the graphics work.02:12:46
@jonah8:matrix.orgjonah8And primarily rely on the laptop display while on-the-go.02:13:01
@buzel:matrix.orgbuzelIn that case, the gazelle or oryx would be close to ideal in my opinion. The oryx will support 3 external displays and have thunderbolt 3 along with the nvidia rtx 30-series graphics which are a major improvement.02:20:18
@buzel:matrix.orgbuzel* In that case, the gazelle or oryx would be close to ideal in my opinion. The oryx will support 3 external displays and have thunderbolt 3 along with the nvidia rtx 30-series graphics which are a major improvement.02:21:16
@buzel:matrix.orgbuzelThe gazelle has support for more storage, but doesn't have thunderbolt.02:22:19
@buzel:matrix.orgbuzelIf you want to see it, Linux Tech Tips did a review of the last gen Oryx pro on YouTube. There are other reviews too from different YouTubers02:23:42

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