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18 Apr 2024 | ||
chrislas | And like my god, if I try and take a day or two off, it's total circus. | 15:08:21 |
SohamG #comraderadio | That is completely fine, it would be a nice to have but I can live without it. My priority is helping coder stay on the air and not have to go away due to lack of sponsors | 17:30:06 |
SohamG #comraderadio | Personal health over everything | 17:30:26 |
@mooshuxs:matrix.org | In reply to @sohamg2:matrix.orgI want to point out the lightning network is an open source project which is decentralized. I support we’re comparing it with the federal Reserve system which is centralized and has unfairness built in. Part of the reason JB exists is to promote decentralization and open source software. We’re all entitled to our opinions. The main issue i see with the LN is complexity, but many techies have navigated it. It’s not that everyone has to and as a supporter of JB, i feel a connection with all other supporters. As a supporter I thank you for also supporting JB. I’m a little curious as to the problem you noticed about the LN but also respect your privacy on this matter if you don’t have time or don’t want to discuss it | 21:03:58 |
@mooshuxs:matrix.org | The default legacy system also includes point of sale, credit, debit which collect fees and have other issues too | 21:17:06 |
SohamG #comraderadio | Well before we get technical I guess im a no coiner since I don't think annonymous unregulated "currency" is a good idea. Apart from that LN has been plagued with coin-stealing vulns and even the original authors said it was intended for BTC txns with a "trusted" second party. It still triggers many on chain txns which will eat up your money in fees. Forget about scaling to Visa/mastercard levels of scale with 7 txn per block. The obscene amounts of complexity is just the cherry on top. | 22:31:55 |
SohamG #comraderadio | In reply to @mooshuxs:matrix.orgI think L2 is far too much complexity for not enough result especially in terms of "solving" L1 problems. (forgot to click reply for prev msg) | 22:32:52 |
SohamG #comraderadio | I could actually make it work even with this if it wasnt prohibitevely complex to onboard. I for eg am in USA for university so I dont have US IDs (state ID, driver license) and my home country is hell bent on putting all exchanges/apps out of business. So overall the math just doesnt add up | 22:36:59 |
@mooshuxs:matrix.org | In reply to @sohamg2:matrix.orgThanks, i was really curious. A lot of JB people in the bitcoin and Alts room are bitcoin maximalist with a tentatively dim view of coins that are governed by a core group and that have a premine that can be pumped and dumped. The recommendation from JB has been not keeping more in Lightning than you can afford to loose. A lot of people cannot afford to loose very much. But the hard thing is getting it setup. Then may understanding and keeping Lightning liquid. The issue with identification is really hard. I haven’t set up lightning myself but the identification issue sounds like it could prevent getting going. If that’s not correct, maybe someone will post. Thanks for explaining | 22:53:43 |
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9 May 2024 | ||
kpovoc | I’m curious about Chris’ thoughts on Nix’s long term viability, given the issues the project appears to be having at the core developer level. I’m a bit late to the game, and don’t really want to invest the time learning a totally new way to manage my system when the new way may not even be around in 2 - 5 years. | 07:22:13 |
middle-age-dev (he/him) | Related to kpovoc's question, I just came across this project yesterday: https://lix.systems/ | 10:33:38 |
middle-age-dev (he/him) | * Related to kpovoc's question, I just came across this project yesterday: https://lix.systems/ | 10:33:55 |
SohamG #comraderadio | I have doubts with Lix/aux etc being able to foot the bill for the binary cache | 10:44:24 |
SohamG #comraderadio | I just took the opportunity to mess around a bit with Guix which is basically as long term viable as the GNU project | 10:44:55 |
10 May 2024 | ||
chrislas | In reply to @kpovoc:beeper.com Long term viability? Zero impact at all. Every distro in history goes throw community drama growing pains. Nix's community size has exploded in the last couple years. | 20:28:58 |
chrislas | In reply to @middle-age-dev:matrix.orghttps://lix.systems/team/ | 20:30:06 |
chrislas | That is not a serious group of people. | 20:30:31 |
chrislas | But it really just depends on what you need from your computer. | 20:30:41 |
chrislas | IDK maybe they are, but don't think they are address the chief concerns of serious deployments. They are addressing social conners, which appeals more to individual end users, and their non-production systems. Which is totally fine. But prolly not appropriate in the context of investing "the time learning a totally new way to manage my system when the new way may not even be around in 2 - 5 years." I ignorant to think Nix won't be around in 2-5 years because a few of the community's most intense personalties got upset and forked. I am sorry for being so blunt about it, but I think some perspective is needed here. | 20:34:59 |
kpovoc | In reply to @chrislas:jupiterbroadcasting.comHey, I appreciate the perspective. It’s why I asked for the opinion. From what I could tell, seems a group wants to kick out their “benevolent dictator”, which can sometimes hurt quickly growing distros. Ikey and Solus come to mind. | 20:44:43 |
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