| 5 Jun 2018 |
 blackjok3r | I agree, it should be working perfectly. When I first started noticing the "swap never started" it was not an etomic version AFAIK. But maybe there is a million different reasons for this same error. | 01:10:25 |
 @siu:matrix.org | its mostly etomic i think | 01:10:51 |
| @siu:matrix.org | i talked earlier with shossain that we should do etomic and non etomic releases | 01:11:15 |
| @siu:matrix.org | but i see where this is going if we dont get a very stable setup for dicos | 01:12:07 |
| @siu:matrix.org | clients will start blaming their marketing failures on the tech | 01:12:29 |
| @siu:matrix.org | say its our fault because "its difficult" | 01:12:42 |
 imylomylo | yes. this is something that needs a broader discussion. | 01:12:44 |
 shossain | yes, every time we make a BarterDEX GUI release, we should release both version. non-etomic version (more stable) & etomic version (less stable) | 01:12:52 |
| @siu:matrix.org | and get burned on social media | 01:12:54 |
| imylomylo | i'm looking at creating product roadmaps. like "long-term-support" versions because we now have a solid foundation for supporting a subset of the tech. this will help with support and marketing | 01:14:19 |
| blackjok3r | You need to have 1 version that works 100%, and is compatible with all bobs. In the past there have been version of MM that were 100% perfect. Those versions need to be kept and recorded as "stable" to use for mission critical things like dICO and bobs. | 01:14:24 |
|  utrumfoundation joined the room. | 01:14:51 |
| utrumfoundation | Total makes sense blackjok3r | 01:14:51 |
| imylomylo | ☝ yes. product roadmap stable versions | 01:15:02 |
| utrumfoundation | Similar to Ubuntu LTS 🙂 | 01:15:16 |
| utrumfoundation | People still using 14 and 16 even though 18 is released | 01:15:36 |
| @siu:matrix.org | utrum did well, but it was because there was work done | 01:15:53 |
| blackjok3r | if its not broken dont fix it. 😄 | 01:15:55 |
| imylomylo | other F/OSS projects i've been involved with in the past as an integrator (asterisk) introduced this and it helped with adoption etc. | 01:15:57 |
| @siu:matrix.org | Sri was very consistant on everything | 01:16:05 |
| @siu:matrix.org | but other projects will not have the same approach | 01:16:20 |
| shossain | i started using Ubuntu 18.04 on 2 nodes. running only kmd wallet | 01:16:27 |
| @siu:matrix.org | and we need to make it clear that planification is needed | 01:16:31 |
| shossain | vps ndoes | 01:16:37 |
| utrumfoundation | Frankly, it took lot of effort to make it happen siu | 01:16:40 |
| utrumfoundation | Siu was patient enough to fix all the problems as we face day to day | 01:16:54 |
| utrumfoundation | But what you did siu should be way moving forward | 01:17:41 |
| utrumfoundation | Like others said, we need to stick to stable versions for dicos | 01:17:57 |
| @siu:matrix.org | yes, but it was also due to you being always testing and helping too | 01:18:02 |
| utrumfoundation | It is a great idea to release etomic and non etomic releases | 01:18:14 |
