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19 Apr 2021
@gm:colker.netGreg (Catholic) But I can read my missal 23:21:35
@j:sneagan.comjackson Sure. That's common practice. 23:21:40
@gm:colker.netGreg (Catholic) Or the bazillion websites and apps 23:21:43
@j:sneagan.comjackson Right. 23:21:52
@gerryireland:matrix.orggerryireland Yes I can the missal as well. But it isn’t the same. 23:22:54
@gerryireland:matrix.orggerryireland I like to hear it. 23:23:13
@gm:colker.netGreg (Catholic)
In reply to @gerryireland:matrix.org
Hmm, that might help.
They don’t always do it when they’re very long or it is a low, daily mass with a tight schedule but I can’t otherwise remember the last time the only English I heard was the homily. (FSSP, and regular diocesan American masses)
23:24:03
@gm:colker.netGreg (Catholic) *
In reply to @gerryireland:matrix.org
Hmm, that might help.
They don’t always do it when they’re very long or it is a low, daily mass with a tight schedule but I can’t otherwise remember the last time the only English I heard was the homily. (FSSP, and regular diocesan American masses)
23:24:24
@j:sneagan.comjackson I could hear an argument for a vernacular Mass. I don't know how that would work, ecclestiastically. But even that would be objectively lesser. 23:24:34
@j:sneagan.comjackson The NO is not that in any instantiation. 23:25:05
@gerryireland:matrix.orggerryireland
In reply to @gm:colker.net
They don’t always do it when they’re very long or it is a low, daily mass with a tight schedule but I can’t otherwise remember the last time the only English I heard was the homily. (FSSP, and regular diocesan American masses)
It’s a Benedictine mass.
23:25:56
@gerryireland:matrix.orggerryireland I guess that’s how they do it? 23:26:07
@gm:colker.netGreg (Catholic)Is it primarily for their religious community or is it a parish?23:26:59
@gm:colker.netGreg (Catholic) With how different your NO experience is it occurred to me the TLM one may be different too 23:27:58
@gerryireland:matrix.orggerryireland It is an open public mass. They also celebrate the mass at a variety of churches in the area. 23:28:35
@gm:colker.netGreg (Catholic)Interesting. Wonder if they have their own rite or if it’s the regular Roman rite23:29:26
@gm:colker.netGreg (Catholic)I have a crying baby to help right now. Later!23:29:41
@gerryireland:matrix.orggerryireland I think it is regular Roman. It draws TLM people from a large geographical area. 23:30:11
@gerryireland:matrix.orggerryireland It is mostly a low mass. 23:30:44
@gerryireland:matrix.orggerryireland They also do the liturgy of the hours to which anyone is invited. 23:31:22
@syril:matrix.orgsyrilFather reads the gospel and epistle in english after he finishes reading them23:39:47
@syril:matrix.orgsyrilor french on weekdays because most of the church is french23:40:12
@syril:matrix.orgsyrilbut I have a good missal to follow along with23:41:19
@syril:matrix.orgsyrilFather Lasance 👍️23:41:41
@syril:matrix.orgsyril

Those enemies most crafty and sly have filled with bitterness and sadness the Church, spouse of the Immaculate Lamb. They have given Her wormwood to drink; they have placed their impious hands over everything that for Her is most dear. Where the Seat of Saint Peter and the Cathedral of the Truth has been erected to be a light for the nations, they have erected the throne of domination of impiety betting that with luck, having struck down the pastor, they can disperse their congregation. Oh invincible champion, help the people of God against the perversity of the spirits that attack them and give them the victory!

(Pope Leo XIII, excerpt from the full St. Micheal Prayer, October 13, 1884)

23:43:09
@syril:matrix.orgsyril *

Those enemies most crafty and sly have filled with bitterness and sadness the Church, spouse of the Immaculate Lamb. They have given Her wormwood to drink; they have placed their impious hands over everything that for Her is most dear. Where the Seat of Saint Peter and the Cathedral of the Truth has been erected to be a light for the nations, they have erected the throne of domination of impiety betting that with luck, having struck down the pastor, they can disperse their congregation. Oh invincible champion, help the people of God against the perversity of the spirits that attack them and give them the victory!
(Pope Leo XIII, excerpt from the full St. Micheal Prayer, October 13, 1884)

23:43:17
@syril:matrix.orgsyril *
Those enemies most crafty and sly have filled with bitterness and sadness the Church, spouse of the Immaculate Lamb. They have given Her wormwood to drink; they have placed their impious hands over everything that for Her is most dear. Where the Seat of Saint Peter and the Cathedral of the Truth has been erected to be a light for the nations, they have erected the throne of domination of impiety betting that with luck, having struck down the pastor, they can disperse their congregation. Oh invincible champion, help the people of God against the perversity of the spirits that attack them and give them the victory!
(Pope Leo XIII, excerpt from the full St. Micheal Prayer, October 13, 1884)
23:43:27
@syril:matrix.orgsyril *
Those enemies most crafty and sly have filled with bitterness and sadness the Church, spouse of the Immaculate Lamb. They have given Her wormwood to drink; they have placed their impious hands over everything that for Her is most dear. Where the Seat of Saint Peter and the Cathedral of the Truth has been erected to be a light for the nations, they have erected the throne of domination of impiety betting that with luck, having struck down the pastor, they can disperse their congregation. Oh invincible champion, help the people of God against the perversity of the spirits that attack them and give them the victory!
(Pope Leo XIII, excerpt from the full St. Micheal Prayer, October 13, 1884)
23:43:38
@syril:matrix.orgsyril *

Those enemies most crafty and sly have filled with bitterness and sadness the Church, spouse of the Immaculate Lamb. They have given Her wormwood to drink; they have placed their impious hands over everything that for Her is most dear. Where the Seat of Saint Peter and the Cathedral of the Truth has been erected to be a light for the nations, they have erected the throne of domination of impiety betting that with luck, having struck down the pastor, they can disperse their congregation. Oh invincible champion, help the people of God against the perversity of the spirits that attack them and give them the victory!

(Pope Leo XIII, excerpt from the full St. Micheal Prayer, October 13, 1884)

23:43:53
@syril:matrix.orgsyrilPope Leo XIII denying the indefectibility of the Church? what the23:44:35

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