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2 Apr 2024
@darknao:fedora.imdarknaobut we could also use that page to list the Everything (and Minimal) variants as I think we don't have any link to them at this point20:11:24
@darknao:fedora.imdarknao(https://fedoraproject.org/spins/minimal/download & https://fedoraproject.org/everything/download)20:12:54
@darknao:fedora.imdarknaothose pages are basically hidden20:13:21
@glb:fedora.imglbIs there a link to that everything download page somewhere? I hadn't noticed it.20:13:34
@glb:fedora.imglbSpook too soon. 🙂20:13:46
@darknao:fedora.imdarknaono I don't think there is20:13:47
@glb:fedora.imglbI've also seen a few requests to get that everything installer promoted better on discourse. Getting that link up might be something we should prioritize.20:14:43
@glb:fedora.imglb * Spoke too soon. 🙂20:15:09
@glb:fedora.imglbBTW, I've seen confusion in the past around what is meant by "network" installer. Some people seem to expect that to be for PXE booting or something. I think "online installer" might be a helpful phrase that we should try to slip in somewhere to further hint about what it is.20:18:02
@darknao:fedora.imdarknaoI'm fine renaming "Network Install" to "Online Install"20:20:27
@glb:fedora.imglbI assume that kind of rename would need to go through a process similar to what Atomic Desktops did.20:21:35
@glb:fedora.imglbThough maybe it isn't quite as significant.20:22:24
@darknao:fedora.imdarknaoI was about to say that it only needs a quick replace here https://gitlab.com/fedora/websites-apps/fedora-websites/fedora-websites-3.0/-/blob/develop/components/utilities/FpDownloadItem.vue?ref_type=heads#L7420:25:05
@darknao:fedora.imdarknaobut if you think it needs to be a more careful decision, then maybe we can hold on that20:26:41
@glb:fedora.imglbYeah, there no reason to be in a hurry about it.20:27:12
@glb:fedora.imglbIs there a SIG that "owns" that installer?20:27:38
@darknao:fedora.imdarknaonot sure, but the Server edition also have a net installer, so maybe we can ask the server sig what they think about it20:28:59
@glb:fedora.imglbI'll start by dropping a comment in their Matrix chat room ... if I can find it.20:30:03
@darknao:fedora.imdarknaoso the Robotics SIG just told me that the robotics lab is not maintained anymore, and should be removed from the website20:30:53
@darknao:fedora.imdarknaoI'll take care of that for F4020:31:03
3 Apr 2024
@glb:fedora.imglb darknao: FYI, the server working group is requesting that we not promote the everything installer on fp.o. So I guess we have people asking for opposing things now. I've seen users on discussion.fp.o complaining that the network installer is hard to find and requesting that it be linked somewhere. I don't know what to do at this point. 🙂 14:23:01
@darknao:fedora.imdarknaook, so we leave it on the old/new alt.fp-o then?14:26:25
@glb:fedora.imglbI'm not sure. I'm not even sure where we had in mind to move it. 🙂14:27:45
@darknao:fedora.imdarknaoor do they want us to promote the Server net installer instead?14:27:57
@glb:fedora.imglb I'd suggest taking a peek at the #server:fedoraproject.org Matrix room to be sure you are seeing the same concern about linking the everything install as I am. 14:28:52
@glb:fedora.imglbPeter is saying something about not wanting people to see/use the "Everything" installer as an alternative way to install the server edition.14:30:00
@glb:fedora.imglbApparently he considers what it installs to be a somewhat broken version of the server edition.14:30:39
@glb:fedora.imglbI wonder if "Everything" is the best name for the installer? Would something like "custom online installer" be better?14:31:42
@glb:fedora.imglbThe best thing to do for now is probably to wait and think about this a bit. 🙂14:32:37
@darknao:fedora.imdarknaoYeah, I think maybe he understood that we wanted to add the Everything netinst to the Server page? or to promote it in other editions? where the goal is I think only to provide a link to the everything artifacts somewhere in the navigation menu (or in the new alt.fp-o page)14:34:45

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