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21 Aug 2020
@cure:matrix.orgcure Stephen304: yeah, I'm up for that 01:51:28
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@poll_mode:matrix.orgpoll_modeHey there. I'm curious if any exit nodes are using wifi hotspots instead of standard internet connections.04:16:22
@igel:matrix.orgigelwired is always better than wireless, but not always possible. NYC mesh has been using the NYCLink (?) kiosk as uplinks i heard. so, yes its easy to use wireless as a WAN to the internet11:14:43
@igel:matrix.orgigel(this was reported over a year ago, not sure to what extent this is implemented)11:15:40
22 Aug 2020
@darkdrgn2k:tomesh.netDarkDrgn2k

wired is always better than wireless, but not always possible. NYC mesh has been using the NYCLink (?) kiosk as uplinks i heard. so, yes its easy to use wireless as a WAN to the internet

they sunset that a while ago cause it was unpredictable

19:40:02
@darkdrgn2k:tomesh.netDarkDrgn2kthey are not so much "EXIT" nodes as "GATEWAY NODES" though19:40:15
@darkdrgn2k:tomesh.netDarkDrgn2kdiffernce being EXIT exists internet traffic while GATEWAY NODE uses an overlay network (the internet) to get to an exit node. Or put simply. Gateway nodes dont use their ips to access the internet for the mesh, exit nodes do.19:41:40
25 Aug 2020
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28 Aug 2020
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14 Sep 2020
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@ooykt:matrix.orgooyktHey! Just moved to Somerville and found out that concast sucks here. Have always been enthusiastic about mesh, and wondering about the state of the network over here. Are there nodes near Somerville, and what's the throughput/latency like? (Also, is there a map for the Boston mesh like NYC's?)14:26:01
@lurker42o:matrix.orglurker We don't have a map yet, not a big enough footprint to really need one.. Stephen304 is up in Somerville, though, and so is timtraversy if I'm not mistaken 16:07:32
@lurker42o:matrix.orglurkerWe're basically working on bootstrapping a network thru personal internet connections at this point16:08:50
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15 Sep 2020
@cure:matrix.orgcure
In reply to @ooykt:matrix.org
Hey! Just moved to Somerville and found out that concast sucks here. Have always been enthusiastic about mesh, and wondering about the state of the network over here. Are there nodes near Somerville, and what's the throughput/latency like? (Also, is there a map for the Boston mesh like NYC's?)
ooykt: you will also find that we are 'lucky' in Somerville, because there is an alternative cable internet provider, RCN. You may want to check them out.
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@timtraversy:matrix.orgtimtraversyIs there any concern about violations of ISP terms of service if you split your service with your neighbors? 17:08:51
@Stephen304:matrix.orgStephen304So there's typically a couple of concerns but I don't think you have to worry realistically. Firstly, sharing is technically against some TOS agreements, but I've never heard of it being enforced, plus it would be hard to distinguish between roommates sharing and sharing with neighbors. Especially since (unless you also host non-vpn-ed gateway on your internet connected node) the traffic from other people will be encrypted. The second concern is DMCA or legal liability, which is only a concern also if you're also hosting a gateway and you don't tunnel it through a vpn17:16:54
@timtraversy:matrix.orgtimtraversyok yeah just wondering if they'd notice. I think NYCMesh started out sharing internet this way, so it must not be enforced heavily 17:38:19
@Stephen304:matrix.orgStephen304I would only worry if we got really big, but by that time we would probably have other options for uplinks. For now as long as nobody generates dmca complaints then it should be easy to fly under the radar17:51:28
@Stephen304:matrix.orgStephen304(and even if there are dmca complaints, it should be fine if they're over one of the VPN-ed gateways)17:51:59
@cure:matrix.orgcureI hope we will be at a scale soon-ish where we can afford our own uplink20:03:10
16 Sep 2020
@ooykt:matrix.orgooyktThanks for the info! Sadly RCN isn't at my block yet :/ But meanwhile I'll def watch progress here, and once I get settled in I'll look at learning more to eventually join the mesh03:28:51
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18 Sep 2020
@padpad:matrix.orgPeterhttps://www.ft.com/content/c460ce4c-c691-4df5-af49-47a395429fe812:19:54
25 Sep 2020
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18 Sep 2020
@padpad:matrix.orgPeter and when they came for the apps I said nothing because I wasn’t an app 12:20:11
@padpad:matrix.orgPeter this is just a ban at the AppStore level. But staying on this same path eventually could lead to bans at the ISP level 12:21:16
@padpad:matrix.orgPeterperhaps12:21:22
21 Sep 2020
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