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Open Hospitality Network (ohn)

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Welcome traveller! Here we chat about federating hospitality exchange platforms. Pls, consider making an #introduction of yourself if you are new to this room. See https://openhospitality.network for more info. (bridged to tg)43 Servers

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17 Apr 2024
@mrkvon:matrix.orgmichal/mrkvon *

Let's continue in https://matrix.to/#/#sleepy-bike-conflict-resolution:matrix.org

Other people can join if they're interested to follow this.

14:49:11
@mrkvon:matrix.orgmichal/mrkvon *

Let's continue in https://matrix.to/#/#sleepy-bike-conflict-resolution:matrix.org

Other people can join if they're interested to follow this.

edit: fixed room link

14:50:26
@mariha:matrix.orgmarihaI don't feel safe in sleepy.bike project spaces any more.15:53:54
@telegram_88687823:chagai.websiteTill - (Telegram)Seems like it's an open source project. Just create a fork and split team and development. Fully share all common ressources so far and develop according your visions and culture seperately. I think if you split up now but be fair with each other, it is even possible to join forces in the future again if you feel like it.17:52:40
@telegram_88687823:chagai.websiteTill - (Telegram)Professional mediation & nonviolent communication might be a good idea anyways17:55:23
@mrkvon:matrix.orgmichal/mrkvonIf you think it makes any difference, then feel free to set up a dedicated channel directly in OHN! 😉18:38:59
@mrkvon:matrix.orgmichal/mrkvon * If you think it makes any difference, then feel free to move and edit the room, or set up other one in OHN 😉 19:00:08
@mrkvon:matrix.orgmichal/mrkvon * If you think it makes any difference, then feel free to move and edit the room, or set up another one in OHN 😉 19:00:22
18 Apr 2024
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@mariha:matrix.orgmarihaI may be willing to hand over to someone all the assets of the project that I happen to own. If someone was interested, I'd like to talk to them.08:10:06
@me:chagai.websiteChagaiAre you sure you don't maybe want to stay? 😬❤️08:41:39
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@telegram_238927011:chagai.websiteKukuku Tâibûn-台文 (Telegram) Hej everyone, we're thinking to build a social media platform with hospitality services in design, through calendars to connect with the different interest groups and hopefully to bridge the difference, a meaningful platform that our time lacks, the mainstream failed to fulfill, a globe map with users on it but without borders... a platform which the active users can design for our future.

Feel free to make contact with us (or this account) if you are also thinking something like this : https://revpub.gcdo.org/
10:44:58
@mrkvon:matrix.orgmichal/mrkvonInteresting. The idea sounds aligned with the original vision of OHN. Do you have some early documentation of the protocol to read?12:35:04
@mrkvon:matrix.orgmichal/mrkvonThey're commons, better term than ownership would be stewardship. With implications to how such decisions can be made. You've studied commons, what would be a good process to make such decisions?12:57:38
@mrkvon:matrix.orgmichal/mrkvon* They're commons, better term than ownership would be stewardship. With implications to how such decisions can be made. You've studied commons mariha: what would be a good process to make such decisions?12:58:36
@mrkvon:matrix.orgmichal/mrkvon* They're commons, better term than ownership would be stewardship. With implications to decision making.13:47:18
@mrkvon:matrix.orgmichal/mrkvon That being said, I'm fine with you mariha handing over the assets to someone we both trust, like Chagai. If it comes to that, I would be also interested to take care of stuff necessary for the sleepy.bike project continuity. 19:31:10
@telegram_88687823:chagai.websiteTill - (Telegram)Although I am not involved with sleepybike I must say I apprecciate how you handle this situation. It seems like there are difficult interpersonal matters going on between you and you still seem to navigate them in a professional and constructive way. Thank you! 🙏19:38:48
19 Apr 2024
@telegram_238927011:chagai.websiteKukuku Tâibûn-台文 (Telegram)
In reply to @mrkvon:matrix.org
Interesting. The idea sounds aligned with the original vision of OHN. Do you have some early documentation of the protocol to read?
Principles Document of Global Community Development Organization
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eNx09G8IYJcV1jHoU2HNhAaGcvNRkVfY4pARc16O0yE/edit?usp=sharing
05:39:22
@mariha:matrix.orgmarihaWe didn't have any interpersonal matters between us but we have incompatible conflict resolution strategies. I look for help in the community and Michal pushes it away from anyone I tried to ask for help. I open the doors and he closes them. The conflict / stalemate was caused by a person / people external to the project who are Michal's close ones. For me it's actually also quite destructive, we are in this for about 3 months now, and I have absolutely no emotional capacity to deal with it any more (or time). To the extent that I am about to leave the project, which is my only software project at the moment and since I had a daughter and which I believe is a good project, I put much time and heart in it and I don't want to leave it as a project. The project also is losing its connection to the community built WarmShowers Android app where it originates and what gives it credibility. If someone was willing to represent me in the mediation I'd highly appreciate it.05:53:15
@mariha:matrix.orgmarihaThe project was also never meant to be professional, it was meant to be human friendly and community supported.08:57:28
@mariha:matrix.orgmarihasounds good, we can do this regardless of anything14:56:10
@mariha:matrix.orgmariha* sounds good, we can do this regardless of everything15:04:29
@mrkvon:matrix.orgmichal/mrkvonThanks, that's helpful. That said, I'm most interested in learning more about technical plans for RevPub.15:46:43
@mrkvon:matrix.orgmichal/mrkvonHello Mariha, I respect your perspective but need to clarify that the descriptions of my actions, intentions, and the project's credibility do not align with the reality of the situation as I see it. I am committed to constructive dialogue and am open to mediation to address these issues transparently and effectively. Let's work together to find a resolution. Additionally, I'd like to reiterate my preference for discussing details in a smaller, dedicated channel that is open to everyone who wants to join, while keeping it separate.16:13:07
@mrkvon:matrix.orgmichal/mrkvonThe conflict arose from our interactions; it’s not helpful to blame any individual specifically.16:37:15
20 Apr 2024
@mariha:matrix.orgmarihaLet's move to the other channel but please do find a mediator. I don't believe the discussion between the two of us can bring anything new and I am honestly EXHAUSTED with it.04:39:58
@mariha:matrix.orgmarihaMaybe credibility is not the best word, I don't know any better, but I believe this is a valuable legacy which justifies on a real word example the choice of SOLID for the implementation.04:56:39
@mariha:matrix.orgmariha* Maybe credibility is not the best word, I don't know any better, but I believe this is a valuable legacy which justifies on a real word example the choice of SOLID for the implementation - and the reason why I started the project.05:00:36

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