| 11 Apr 2024 |
 jonathanspw | In reply to @jflory7:fedora.im
I only need an excuse to pick on those Tesla cybertrucks though 😅 Don't have one of those, just a couple of gas guzzling Chevies | 17:01:30 |
 Conan Kudo | In reply to @jflory7:fedora.im
Fedora Design Suite Lab? I said I could, I already know an existing lab exists and there's no reason for me to step on them. | 17:02:16 |
| Conan Kudo | honestly, I'd probably talk to them about whether they'd be interested in switching from GNOME to KDE, but it's not that important to me | 17:02:53 |
 Justin W. Flory (he/him) | In reply to @conan_kudo:matrix.org
I said I could, I already know an existing lab exists and there's no reason for me to step on them. Well, I haven't followed it closely but actually I think they could use the help. | 17:02:58 |
 Stephen Gallagher | 
Download Star-Fox-SNES-2.jpg | 17:03:01 |
| Stephen Gallagher | Leaked prototype image of the Tesla airplane: | 17:03:03 |
| Justin W. Flory (he/him) | Instead of creating two similar things with similar use cases | 17:03:12 |
| Conan Kudo | here's the thing: at this point, myself and the SIG are no longer comfortable with allowing us to be second-tier | 17:03:41 |
| Conan Kudo | while I didn't specifically sign onto the Change, that doesn't change the fact that I do not think the status quo is fine at all | 17:04:01 |
 nirik | side note: I wish we could find a better delivery method for things than 'make another spin iso' | 17:04:18 |
| Conan Kudo | and I also don't think the existing rules are particularly favorable to any team that demonstrates the kind of energy and dedication that the KDE SIG does | 17:04:27 |
| Justin W. Flory (he/him) | Stephen Gallagher: OMG I never thought of this but you are so right! | 17:04:42 |
| Stephen Gallagher | nirik: Maybe we need a way to group Flatpaks as a collection of features? | 17:05:32 |
| Conan Kudo | this is also the second time that I've run into this problem | 17:05:46 |
| Conan Kudo | the first time was the effort it took to get Fedora Cloud's Edition status back | 17:05:55 |
| Conan Kudo | that was unnecessarily difficult to do | 17:06:03 |
| Justin W. Flory (he/him) | In reply to @sgallagh:fedora.im
nirik: Maybe we need a way to group Flatpaks as a collection of features? I think Mairin has mentioned wanting that specifically for enablement work around Podman in Fedora editions | 17:06:00 |
| nirik | not sure thats what I meant, but go/no-go... so I will go. ;) | 17:06:29 |
| Stephen Gallagher | nirik: Well, if we have groups of features that could be displayed prominently in the "app store" (GNOME Software, Discover, etc) it would be helpful | 17:07:18 |
| Stephen Gallagher | Then they could be tested as a unit and deployed to whichever desktop the user already has | 17:07:33 |
| Conan Kudo | that is possible in GNOME Software, I've never bothered for Plasma Discover because the feature is kind of useless in Software | 17:08:35 |
| Conan Kudo | * that is possible in GNOME Software, I've never bothered asking for it for Plasma Discover because the feature is kind of useless in Software | 17:08:51 |
| Stephen Gallagher | Conan Kudo: Why is it useless? Do you mean useless in general or useless because it's not being used today? | 17:09:49 |
| Conan Kudo | the former | 17:10:06 |
| Conan Kudo | also pretty much every set of picks we made led to complaints to the Workstation WG, and the WG is not equipped to deal with user complaints, so... | 17:10:35 |
| Conan Kudo | I'm fine with not having the feature in Plasma Discover simply because it wasn't worth it for GNOME Software, IMO | 17:11:44 |
 mattdm | It would be nice to allow SIGs to make picks for their areas. As I understand it right now, GNOME Software features whatever upstream GNOME has decided to showcase. Which is fine, but I think better to delegate. | 17:12:05 |
| Conan Kudo | It falls back to what GNOME wants if we don't specify something in appstream repodata | 17:12:26 |
| Stephen Gallagher | Conan Kudo: Oh, you mean that it has groupings. I was actually talking about more like bundles | 17:13:28 |
| Stephen Gallagher | Rather than a category like "Development", we'd have a bundle of N flatpaks that provide a complete OpenShift development->deployment environment. (for example) | 17:14:25 |
