| 30 May 2020 |
 Mat | In reply to Comrade Yutyo
Dude, not the same thing tho. It is | 22:28:50 |
 Lucas Rot | Please stop | 22:29:01 |
 Tan Akıncı | You can't even use software from the source code due to NixOS' alienated file hierarchy. | 22:29:13 |
| Mat | Different ways of packaging stuff 🤷♂️ I can't stand you blaming NixOS because you don't want to use it | 22:29:23 |
| Tan Akıncı | It was even a pain to add theme, because nix folders are read only. | 22:29:36 |
| Lucas Rot | Just stop, your discussion does lead to nowhere | 22:29:37 |
| Tan Akıncı | In reply to Mat
Different ways of packaging stuff 🤷♂️ I can't stand you blaming NixOS because you don't want to use it I have used it since November. | 22:29:44 |
 @telegram_909136296:t2bot.io | why can't different distros use the same package formats (e.g. deb/rpm)? they use the same kernel so the program should be able to run, why not add support for those formats | 22:29:49 |
| @telegram_909136296:t2bot.io | I see | 22:30:15 |
| Mat | In reply to chinook
why can't different distros use the same package formats (e.g. deb/rpm)? they use the same kernel so the program should be able to run, why not add support for those formats Diffferent libs, different packages, different kernel, different... | 22:30:10 |
| Tan Akıncı | In reply to chinook
why can't different distros use the same package formats (e.g. deb/rpm)? they use the same kernel so the program should be able to run, why not add support for those formats NixOS has an approach, which is to have the most alienated distro possible to not let anything to work but Nix package manager. | 22:30:52 |
| Tan Akıncı | Even basic server management is more strict than Ansible. | 22:30:54 |
| Mat | I like nix and guix because they're independent from the distro | 22:31:04 |
| @telegram_909136296:t2bot.io | yikes | 22:31:05 |
| Mat | In reply to Comrade Yutyo
NixOS has an approach, which is to have the most alienated distro possible to not let anything to work but Nix package manager. That's the point of it. Would you use pacman on debian? | 22:31:32 |
| Tan Akıncı | Like, to install something properly, you either edit a long config file called configure.nix or make a nix script which is hard. | 22:31:38 |
| Tan Akıncı | You literally make software to install software. | 22:31:46 |
| @telegram_909136296:t2bot.io | was user friendliness a pillar goal of MerOS | 22:32:12 |
| Mat | In reply to chinook
was user friendliness a pillar goal of MerOS Yep | 22:32:17 |
| Lucas Rot | In reply to Mat
That's the point of it. Would you use pacman on debian? https://bedrocklinux.org/ | 22:32:20 |
| @telegram_909136296:t2bot.io | In reply to Mat
Yep then why use Nix | 22:32:50 |
| Mat | In reply to Lucas Rot
https://bedrocklinux.org/ You can use apt on Arch with the proper knowledge and work. That's not what I meant | 22:32:55 |
| @telegram_909136296:t2bot.io | why not Arch for example | 22:32:58 |
| Tan Akıncı | In reply to Mat
That's the point of it. Would you use pacman on debian? Its not the same dude. You can use npm and other stuff at those distros. | 22:33:02 |
| Mat | In reply to chinook
was user friendliness a pillar goal of MerOS NixOS lacks a proper GUI for packages and options, that's one of its flaws | 22:33:24 |
| Tan Akıncı | In reply to chinook
then why use Nix Because its declarative etc, and the fact you avoid global package problems. | 22:33:27 |
| Mat | In reply to Comrade Yutyo
Its not the same dude. You can use npm and other stuff at those distros. Yeah, finding your system in a strange and uncontrolled state. Or you package those stuff for the distro package manager letting it do all the work | 22:34:13 |
| @telegram_909136296:t2bot.io | was MerOS originally supposed to be Nix | 22:34:16 |
| Mat | In reply to chinook
was MerOS originally supposed to be Nix Yep | 22:34:20 |
| Mat | * Yep, a user-friendly NixOS-based distro | 22:34:31 |
