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24 Jan 2025
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@rampoina:matrix.orgRampoina
In reply to @dzaima:matrix.org
for an O(n^2) solution I had this BQN: {{βŠ‘0∾˜/𝕩>βŠ‘π•©}Β¨ Β―1↓↓𝕩}
why not βŠ‘1↑ instead of βŠ‘0∾˜ ?
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@dzaima:matrix.orgdzaima cause I prefer to not think in fills :p 14:58:07
@dzaima:matrix.orgdzaima (plus it's trivial to switch to say ∞ instead of 0) 14:58:26
@rampoina:matrix.orgRampoinaI guess, but it feels a bit adhoc to me15:00:41
@rampoina:matrix.orgRampoina I'd even prefer βŠ‘βŽŠx but I think that might have performance problems? 15:01:12
@dzaima:matrix.orgdzaima yeah, and doesn't work if x is a function and you want to get said function instead of calling it 15:02:08
@mlochbaum:matrix.orgMarshall I'd use 0⊣´ here. Although sadly that doesn't translate to 0⊒´ to get the last value, it would always return 0. 15:09:47
25 Jan 2025
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@_discord_1005145927868235856:t2bot.iotikhokhodka What apl-like programming language would you recommend if in case I didn't like it I would abandon the idea of learning array programming?
Not trying to be aggressive, just don't want to end up in a situation where I didn't like it because I didn't do it right, instead of the subject being not interesting.
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@_discord_201716976924622849:t2bot.iotwobular i don't think there is a single array lang that can be recommended for that purpose. there is a lot of variation among array langs 19:08:04
@vem_:matrix.orgvem_tbh I got into J because I wanted to explore the APL world, but I haven't become that skillful with arrays.19:11:17
@_discord_201716976924622849:t2bot.iotwobular if you don't like a lang it might be because of something that other langs have fixed, or it might be because of something that happens in all array langs. it's impossible to say 19:11:29
@vem_:matrix.orgvem_I want to! Lots of the papers published are quite lucid...19:11:34
@_discord_1005145927868235856:t2bot.iotikhokhodka I want to go with bqn because it's packed with features 19:13:27
@_discord_201716976924622849:t2bot.iotwobular if something speaks to you then try it out! 19:13:46
@_discord_116306741058207744:t2bot.iovendethiel you're bound to learn things 19:13:55
@vem_:matrix.orgvem_I need to revisit BQN now that I figured out keyboard input.19:13:58
@rpanades:matrix.orgpanadesteinPacked with features? 19:14:24
@vem_:matrix.orgvem_BQN has a lot of enthusiasm, there's a nice IDE and language servers are cool.19:16:07
@rpanades:matrix.orgpanadesteinBQN is the only array lang I know, and I recommend it all the time. It is my favorite language, actually 19:17:34
@vem_:matrix.orgvem_BQN's glyphs are really neat.19:18:19
@_discord_201716976924622849:t2bot.iotwobular if you try bqn and there's something you don't like or don't understand, you should ask about that thing here. then the bqn understanders can help you figure out if there is a solution to your problem, or if array langs aren't the best choice for what you want 19:18:22
@vem_:matrix.orgvem_bqncrate is cute too19:33:10
@oantolin:matrix.orgoantolin
In reply to vem_
BQN's glyphs are really neat.

In the appropriate font. I discovered I enjoyed BQN much more after I installed the BQN385 font. In the font I was using before all the 1-modifiers were to thin and small to see clearly and I kept screwing up. πŸ˜…

19:38:04
@oantolin:matrix.orgoantolin> <vem_> BQN's glyphs are really neat. In the appropriate font. I discovered I enjoyed BQN much more after I installed the BQN386 font. In the font I was using before all the 1-modifiers were to thin and small to see clearly and I kept screwing up. πŸ˜…19:38:46
@oantolin:matrix.orgoantolinIn the appropriate font. I discovered I enjoyed BQN much more after I installed the BQN386 font. In the font I was using before all the 1-modifiers were to thin and small to see clearly and I kept screwing up. πŸ˜…19:38:56
@vem_:matrix.orgvem_Fonts matter!19:39:54

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