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19 Feb 2019
@lindalap:matrix.orgLinda

pbuilder*

00:31:35
@max:kamax.ioMaximusThanks, I'll have a look00:32:33
@lindalap:matrix.orgLinda

I didn't know debian/compat is legacy, ha. Replaced it with a Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12).

00:44:17
@shirish:matrix.orgshirish@Linda: https://bugs.debian.org/922654 also works :)01:03:25
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishusually any new packaging is usually done at sid/unstable01:05:27
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishthe only targets for it are unstable/sid, testing/buster and stable-backports. 01:06:09
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishFor debian-stable you can't anyway introduce any new functionality, only bug-fixes for security vuln. and such . 01:07:07
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishThere are some special edge-cases as described in https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/ch05.en.html#upload-stable but it makes for much more work for you without any gaurantee that the stable release team and ftp-masters would be ok with it. 01:10:54
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishespecially if it dpends on new versions of packages either in depends or build-depends. 01:11:17
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishdebian-backports is without assurance so you can always target that if you need that people who might be using stable can also use the new package release 01:12:29
@lindalap:matrix.orgLinda

I don't understand what you're trying to point out.

01:12:57
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishI am/was under the impression that you are also thinking of releasing the new version of the package for debian/stable as well. 01:13:36
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishif not just pretend you didn't see the above part of the conversation. 01:14:02
@shirish:matrix.orgshirish:)01:14:16
@lindalap:matrix.orgLinda

No, not at this moment. The Debian bug was a typo in the policy, which I may or may not need to use.

01:14:31
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishah ok. 01:14:41
@lindalap:matrix.orgLinda

stretch is rather unlikely immediately, since the build dependency is set to debhelper compat level 12. buster has it.

01:15:00
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishI do hope you know about https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/ . That may help you in the future https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/ where you may get the new debhelper. 01:15:17
@lindalap:matrix.orgLinda

Also, it won't happen anyway because buster is frozen

01:15:20
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishhttps://wiki.debian.org/Backports01:16:05
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishyeah, that is true so your best bet atm is experimental which is open at all times :)01:16:29
@lindalap:matrix.orgLinda

It's not fit for release on Debian yet. It violates policies, like overwriting configuration.

01:27:37
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishright, still knowledge is never wasteful. Hope you find the above whenever it is in fit condition to be released in Debian. 01:28:54
@lindalap:matrix.orgLinda

Thanks, I'm already aware.

01:29:51
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishwanted to say find the above useful but good to know :)01:34:33
@uhoreg:matrix.org[uhoreg]
In reply to @max:kamax.io
I'll make a docker image to build, it's going to be easier I think
Take a look at whalebuilder. I find it really useful (though I'm probably very biased ;) )
02:28:49
@max:kamax.ioMaximusoooh02:29:34
@max:kamax.ioMaximusnow we're talking02:29:37
@lindalap:matrix.orgLindaRedacted or Malformed Event05:48:51
@lindalap:matrix.orgLinda

I think I need some help with figuring out what's the best way to handle this configuration thingy.

  1. I can't choose between dpkg and ucf.
  2. I think dh_ucf(1) is clearly underdocumented.
  3. I'm thinking matrix-archive-config needs to create its configuration at preinst, config or postinst time.
  4. As a side-effect of #3, dpkg will not know about these Conffiles because they were not in debian/matrix-archive-config.install.

Help me.

05:49:16

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