| 26 Mar 2019 |
 andrewsh | or make sure there’s another RC bug I can piggy-back this onto 🙂 | 16:32:33 |
 Ansgar | Well, it's probably not RC as long as there are no file conflicts... | 16:36:07 |
| Ansgar | Filed as https://bugs.debian.org/925543 | 17:07:19 |
| andrewsh | Thanks! | 17:27:17 |
 Linda | Reminder to sponsor matrix-archive-keyring, maybe. Or wontfix. | 19:05:07 |
| 27 Mar 2019 |
|  ah joined the room. | 19:39:36 |
 Q | Do we actually expect people to use a debian.org/net homeserver, or would it only be admins so that rooms can have an alias under that name? | 22:55:10 |
 Willem | I'd use it if only for the vanity aspect of it | 23:10:09 |
| Willem | Not that I'm really affiliated with Debian | 23:10:31 |
| * Willem said that while wearing a Debian t-shirt | 23:10:48 |
| 28 Mar 2019 |
 uhoreg | Debian has an XMPP server for DDs. Are there any statistics on how much it's used? | 00:49:42 |
 highvoltage | I tried to use it at one point but couldn't find other DDs who still use it to add | 07:35:17 |
| highvoltage | I was glad to see a bunch of guys walk around at FOSDEM with XMPP t-shirts so at least it seems that the protocol isn't quite dead | 07:35:46 |
| Ansgar | Doesn't WhatsApp use XMPP? So the protocol isn't dead... | 08:09:03 |
| Ansgar | Ah, no, the internet says they started with XMPP but switched to something else. | 08:09:42 |
 grin | In reply to @ansgar:matrix.tii.tu-dresden.de
Doesn't WhatsApp use XMPP? So the protocol isn't dead... Nope. | 08:24:57 |
| grin | Also google move away too 3-4 years ago. | 08:25:15 |
 JoKe | But did they move to fundamentally different protocols, or just some milder customizations? | 08:54:06 |
| andrewsh | I never used the Debian XMPP server because there was no way to link it with my existing accounts (still isn’t), so there was little point in having yet one more identity | 10:18:13 |
| Ansgar | Q: I'm mostly interested in having "offical" rooms; having user accounts doesn't seem necessary (as one can just use Matrix fine with any other account too). | 10:28:22 |
| Ansgar | Just like Debian has mailing lists, but no IMAP server or such. | 10:28:42 |
| andrewsh | also the Debian community could move there I guess? (I’m still not sure how communities work but) | 11:20:59 |
| andrewsh | right, so +debian:matrix.org → +developers:debian.org, +maintainers:debian.org, +users:debian.org… | 11:22:07 |
| uhoreg | In reply to @ansgar:matrix.tii.tu-dresden.de
Q: I'm mostly interested in having "offical" rooms; having user accounts doesn't seem necessary (as one can just use Matrix fine with any other account too). TBH, I don't really see thevalue in having another set of "official" set of rooms on Matrix. Personally, I think it would make more sense to officially support the bridge to the IRC rooms, for example, by allowing Matrix users to join without needing a registered nick (I don't know much about IRC, but apparently there's some magic to do that) | 13:41:29 |
| Ansgar | uhoreg: And ban multi-line messages, markup, ... They don't seem to map well to IRC. | 13:50:15 |
| Ansgar | "* ${someone} sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/${something} >" is not really useful... | 13:51:50 |
| uhoreg | Yup. Personally, I like the way some XMPP servers (with the right plugin) handle long messages in MUCs - it shows the first line of the message, and the shows a link to view the rest | 13:55:02 |
| Q | Does the XMPP server actually still work? It stopped working for me several years ago. | 22:27:26 |
| 29 Mar 2019 |
 tehnick | > I tried to use it at one point but couldn't find other DDs who still use it to add
You may add Martin (debacle) to your contact list. | 07:47:37 |
| tehnick | I prefer to use my old JID registered long time ago. | 07:49:40 |
